340..partially solved ;)

Re: 340..partially solved ;)

Postby Quicktrader » Tue Dec 01, 2020 6:01 am

Small update:

So far, a total of 1,301,153,248,512,000 or 1.3 quadrillion different letter variations have been tested: All of those variations have been checked (each single one) against a dictionary of ~4,500 words. Each word on each possible position. Out of those 1,3 quadrillion variations, only six (!) potential results have occurred ("At least one word of length 5 or longer found in each of the three strings").

Still aware of the total size of Z340?

26^63 or 1.39e+89 or 139,098,011,710,742,195,590,974,259,094,800,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 theoretically existing variations (63 homophones). Chess has approximately 10e+120 variations ('Shannon number'), which is significantly greater. And, obviously, the Hardens were able to solve a 2.56e+76 cipher. Thus, 1.39e+89 should - still - be in some computational spheres..

Thus, the complexity of the Z340 cipher can be placed somewhere between the Z408 and chess; closer to the Harden's, I'd say.

Considering the cipher structure itself:

- identical homophones in different strings
- repeating bigrams etc

is 'key': The English language dramatically reduces the huge number above. How much? We do not know because this mostly depends on the linguistic patterns of English/American language (dictionary). For example, the word QQQQQ does not exist; thus all of it's related combinations are excluded, not even computed.

The TASK is to compute as many variations as possible by simultaneously considering the English language with the cipher structure. In fact, this currently happens in some kind of 'short version' of 26^17 different variations.

An almost philosophical (cryptoanalytical) question arises:

Will the total potential of the cipher's encryption method be reduced strongly enough by the English language with regard to its cipher structure to make it computable in a specific time period?

In our case, the latter ('computable') is limited to a setting of 26^17, thus computing 17 letters. I simply do not have any faster computer available than the one in front of me. The unexpected answer, however, is YES: This can be seen during the concurrent computing progress as the program 'skips' to the next bigram section, practically.

At least, when focussing on common bigrams.

If the pre-set is good, the cipher 'should' be cracked over the next 12 months. HOWEVER: It makes a huge difference if the computation runs with the correct set-up, e.g. 30 frequent bigrams (30^3=27,000) or all potentially existing bigram combinations (676^3=308,915,776 - three repeating bigrams are considered). Using all bigrams slows down the computation progress by the factor 1:11,441. Eleven thousand years of computation instead of 12 months. And this just because using all bigrams instead of only the common ones. This somehow shows the 'sensitivity' of this cracking process.

At least, there is now a way to 'cover' multiple quadrillions of the most likely letter variations. From now on, the question is not 'if' but 'how long' it will take to crack the Z340. :geek:

For me, this is comfortable: Besides smaller modifications regarding eg. the bigrams used, the program is working perfectly fine. All I can do is wait and watch.

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Re: 340..partially solved ;)

Postby up2something » Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:11 am

Seven years and 36 pages of trying to force a homophonic substitution solution. Hasn't this been pretty convincingly shown to likely not be a homophonic substitution cipher?
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Re: 340..partially solved ;)

Postby Quicktrader » Tue Dec 01, 2020 9:03 am

up2something wrote:Seven years and 36 pages of trying to force a homophonic substitution solution. Hasn't this been pretty convincingly shown to likely not be a homophonic substitution cipher?


Good question but it has not. First of all, it indeed took 7 years of 'hobby' cryptanalysis to get to the point we are now. Second, using Python started only a few years ago. The program itself, as it consists of today, exists since less than a month. Thus, the cracking process has just begun - everything else before were thoughts, learning to program Python, preparing the dictionary, implementing the Aho-Corasick algorithm, programming the tool itself (with countless trial and errors), configuration of the program to not get endless lists nor one blinking cursor etc.

So far, the program has 'only' covered S (for the plus symbol) in combination with 6 different trigrams on a basis of 30 repeating bigrams. Total computation time approximately 48 hours (I still have some real life, too..).

IMO the Z340 may assumed to be a homophone substitution:

First of all, most encryption methods do not consist of homophones ('symbols') but figures or alphabetical letters. Here, this is not the case. Thus it must be an encryption using symbols - even more than 26. Therefore, the cipher is assumed to be a polyalphabetic (homophone) substitution, this way or another. It even was figured out that - opposite to the Z408 - the sequences are NOT constant over the complete cipher text (e.g. the w symbol occurs often but only in some sections of the cipher). But still it is homophone substitution.

In addition to that, solid sequences - typical for homophone substitution - have been found (see Doranchaks presentation minute 23:28 viewtopic.php?f=95&t=5044). Also other structures can be seen, true.

Until the cipher is solved, it is just an assumption. But I see more than 26 symbols which makes me believe to be right on this one. Considering the effort to solve the Z340 this way does not require any additional encryption method (eg transposition). It simply is hard to solve as it is.

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Re: 340..partially solved ;)

Postby up2something » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:20 am

Well, good luck QT.
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Re: 340..partially solved ;)

Postby Quicktrader » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:25 pm

up2something wrote:Well, good luck QT.


I'll let you know if the cipher starts with 'I have been up to something.." :)
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