Xenophon Anthony

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Re: Xenophon Anthony

Postby UKSpycatcher » Fri Jun 17, 2016 10:35 am

Norse wrote:Well, I'm glad WC's efforts finally paid off - and well done everybody for digging up relevant information.

He lived on Jackson St at the time, so the assumption that he must have been someone the kid knew from the area was accurate.

The main question now - as I see it - is on what grounds Anthony was checked out of the case (we have to assume that he was), and that brings us to the good old question of the unreleased SFPD material.

Another question is this: If the kid was well placed to ID the killer (assumption: the kid saw the actual killer and thought that he was Anthony), must we not necessarily conclude that Z bore a resemblance (possibly a strong one) to this person?

The premise above may not be true, of course: We don't know for a fact that this kid actually witnessed Z leaving the crime scene - the exact circumstances of the identification remain unknown. As I've said before, this could be some sort of misunderstanding: On the face of it, it seems almost too good to be true that there is another (possibly excellent) witness out there in addition to the teens across the street - one that has only played a very minor part in the Z case as we know it.


Welsh Chappie says thank you for your kind words Norse and wishes you well. :D :D :)
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Re: Xenophon Anthony

Postby Wier » Sat Jun 18, 2016 8:21 am

FWIW...Many years ago Howard Davis found a string of letters/symbols in a book that were amazingly similar to Zodiac's " MY name is" code. (AEN with crosshairs). It turned out that this string came from Old classic Greek. Personally I always though it more than coincidence but there was only so far you could take it. I had it translated at the time and while I cannot remember or find the exact translation it was something also the lines of " I constructed" or I invented...something like that.
In any case I thought the connection to the name Xenophone (also classic Greek) of interest.
It turns out that the middle name Lusby is derived from Old Norse. An unusual combination?
Probably one of those many coincidences this case throws up!
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Re: Xenophon Anthony

Postby doranchak » Sat Jun 18, 2016 12:15 pm

Wier wrote:FWIW...Many years ago Howard Davis found a string of letters/symbols in a book that were amazingly similar to Zodiac's " MY name is" code. (AEN with crosshairs). It turned out that this string came from Old classic Greek. Personally I always though it more than coincidence but there was only so far you could take it. I had it translated at the time and while I cannot remember or find the exact translation it was something also the lines of " I constructed" or I invented...something like that.
In any case I thought the connection to the name Xenophone (also classic Greek) of interest.
It turns out that the middle name Lusby is derived from Old Norse. An unusual combination?
Probably one of those many coincidences this case throws up!


Tom Voigt posted it here: http://www.zodiackiller.com/MyNameIs.html

I also mentioned it here: http://www.zodiackillerciphers.com/?p=467 (scroll down a bit, there are other examples).

I believe it transliterates to "anetheke" which is apparently a phrase used for formal dedications. Examples: https://books.google.com/books?id=IClnh ... ke&f=false http://www.fhw.gr/chronos/04/en/society ... _arts.html
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Re: Xenophon Anthony

Postby UKSpycatcher » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:26 pm

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Re: Xenophon Anthony

Postby UKSpycatcher » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:28 pm

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Re: Xenophon Anthony

Postby Seagull » Sat Jun 18, 2016 4:46 pm

I did a search for Xenophon Anthony at the Marin County Superior Court website. There were no records for him in either the Civil or Criminal Court records. According to the info in the help section the online records date back to the 70s. The website also says that traffic case information is not available online. Many of the background check sites consider a traffic ticket as part of a criminal record so it's likely that Xen had a speeding ticket or something and that is why his name popped up.

Here's the link to the Marin County Superior Court online search. You can check it out for yourself. It's free.

http://www.marincourt.org/publicindex/default.aspx
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Re: Xenophon Anthony

Postby UKSpycatcher » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:36 pm

Is there any San Quentin prison records of inmates from 1970 onwards.
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Re: Xenophon Anthony

Postby Seagull » Sat Jun 18, 2016 5:48 pm

The California Prison and Correctional Records online date from 1851 to 1950 except for the records from Alcatraz, they date from 1934 to 1963 when the prison closed. I can view them through Ancestry.com but I think they are available for free someplace, like the Internet Archive.
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Re: Xenophon Anthony

Postby Norse » Sun Jun 19, 2016 4:36 pm

doranchak wrote:I believe it transliterates to "anetheke" which is apparently a phrase used for formal dedications.


Yes - it roughly translates to "dedicated to" or something along those lines, as far as I can gather. "Dedicated to Zeus by [artist's name]." The formula seems to be:

"NAME" (usually a deity) "ANETHEKE" "NAME" (the artist).

At first glance it seems an awkward fit, if one can put it like that. The sentence would - seemingly - read: My name is "dedicated to X" or "dedicated by X".

Not impossible, of course. And the superficial resemblance is certainly noteworthy.

I don't like that it isn't an actual fit, though. If it read "anetheke" and no mistake - well, you have something unambiguous and solid. The moment you have to re-arrange the pieces (even just slightly), it becomes a different ballgame. It becomes much more likely that it's just another coincidence rather than something meaningful.

It's like - say - dates: Something happens on the 20th - fine. Something happens on the 22nd, which is no doubt very close to the 20th - not so fine. Could easily be a coincidence.

The above is just a general remark, of course. But in this particular case the question would be: If you intend to draw attention to "anetheke" (because this has some significance - it's part of whatever game you're playing), why the near-fit? Why not an actual fit? He isn't hiding it very well to begin with - it's practically there, just not quite. Which strikes me as - well - pointless on his part.

Could be a misspelling, of course. He was prone to those ;)
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Re: Xenophon Anthony

Postby UKSpycatcher » Sun Jun 19, 2016 5:13 pm

I am not pushing this idea, but it was of momentary interest that the Halloween Card read Sorry No Cipher formed into an X.
The author then underlined LAV on the envelope. ie;no cipher but i'll give you XLAV.
Xenophon Lusby Anthony, with Valerie Anthony in reverse.
Remember LAV and VAL being discussed. Anyway this is not to be pondered on too long.
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