Washington & Maple
Re: Washington & Maple
by Norse » Sun Sep 29, 2019 12:30 pm
monarch wrote:Welcome back Norse !
Thanks! Figured it was about time I dropped by.
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Re: Washington & Maple
by Xcaliber » Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:07 pm
You make several good points, but my guess is there was never an 'incorrect' suspect-description in the broadcast. That would explain a lot.
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Re: Washington & Maple
by Norse » Mon Sep 30, 2019 2:58 am
In the context of a possible cover-up, it would - certainly.
Balance of probabilities, I suppose. If the NMA detail is bogus it means that Pelissetti knew the truth, omitted the incident from his report and - later - implicated at least one (unknown) dispatcher in this business. And both Peda and Zelms would have been aware that there wasn’t any NMA involved (so you’d think). Lastly - again - this is something which is set in motion not in the context of the Zodiac case. If the cover-up was initiated after everyone knew that Stine was a Zodiac victim - then, yes, it would have been much easier to buy it. But that isn’t the case.
Some other points which may be mentioned:
* Pelissetti’s report is clearly not very detailed (e.g. he neglects to mention that he, himself, encountered someone walking a dog shortly after the murder).
* We don’t have access to much of the material pertaining to the Stine murder.
* Pelissetti is on record stating that he doesn’t think the man Fouke encountered (whether he talked to him or not) was Zodiac - his reasoning being that Zodiac would have been covered with blood, a fact Fouke couldn’t have failed to notice. Which is a spurious argument, in my opinion, but that’s another matter: If Pelissetti was in on the cover-up, he offers this opinion in that context, you could say - which may or may not make sense.
* Zodiac doesn’t mention this incident straight away. He was very nearly caught, but managed to pull a trick on the cops - no small feat from his perspective. But he doesn’t mention this right away: the incident is only mentioned in his third post-Stine missive. In his first missive, he talks about hiding out in the park (evading the cops - a taunting remark on his part), but there’s no mention of the much more embarrassing (for the SFPD) Fouke encounter.
Balance of probabilities, I suppose. If the NMA detail is bogus it means that Pelissetti knew the truth, omitted the incident from his report and - later - implicated at least one (unknown) dispatcher in this business. And both Peda and Zelms would have been aware that there wasn’t any NMA involved (so you’d think). Lastly - again - this is something which is set in motion not in the context of the Zodiac case. If the cover-up was initiated after everyone knew that Stine was a Zodiac victim - then, yes, it would have been much easier to buy it. But that isn’t the case.
Some other points which may be mentioned:
* Pelissetti’s report is clearly not very detailed (e.g. he neglects to mention that he, himself, encountered someone walking a dog shortly after the murder).
* We don’t have access to much of the material pertaining to the Stine murder.
* Pelissetti is on record stating that he doesn’t think the man Fouke encountered (whether he talked to him or not) was Zodiac - his reasoning being that Zodiac would have been covered with blood, a fact Fouke couldn’t have failed to notice. Which is a spurious argument, in my opinion, but that’s another matter: If Pelissetti was in on the cover-up, he offers this opinion in that context, you could say - which may or may not make sense.
* Zodiac doesn’t mention this incident straight away. He was very nearly caught, but managed to pull a trick on the cops - no small feat from his perspective. But he doesn’t mention this right away: the incident is only mentioned in his third post-Stine missive. In his first missive, he talks about hiding out in the park (evading the cops - a taunting remark on his part), but there’s no mention of the much more embarrassing (for the SFPD) Fouke encounter.
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