A genealogy for some of the victims

[Soze]

This thread is meaningless. Doesn't amount to a hill of beans.

Soze

[Tahoe27]

Looks like you put a lot of work into it Soze. I don't remember seeing this. That 5th chart reminds me of the symbol on the HC card.

[Soze]

I feel extremely frustrated. I've done my best to try and break things down to something that should be easily understood but I get next to nothing on rare occasions and nothing for the bulk. No questions. No I hate the idea. No i dont understand. Nothing. For years I've assumed it is simply because I'm not liked. Ive, for the most part, have done good to not let it bother me. For me the case has and, will always be, more important than you liking me. But there is a point you reach where you come to realize that the case means more to you than it seems for anyone else. I think i have come to realize I am really more disappointed. Not that you didnt take my idea and run with it but in the fact no one has even tried to follow through on any and all ideas; something I perhaps naively thought this site was about. Investigating the big, small, exciting and the completely, for lack of better words, retarded. Yeah. I put a lot of work into it years ago.

Soze

[Tahoe27]

I think a lot of us get Zodiac burnout. We drift off and on...and we miss things. I have valued your input. Please know this.

One thing I do know is that less is more. People don't have much of an attention span. Not that you are guilty of this, but if your posts were ever ignored, maybe it was just too much to handle. Don't stop researching because of others lack of interest.

[Marshall]

I feel extremely frustrated. I've done my best to try and break things down to something that should be easily understood but I get next to nothing on rare occasions and nothing for the bulk. No questions. No I hate the idea. No i dont understand. Nothing. For years I've assumed it is simply because I'm not liked. Ive, for the most part, have done good to not let it bother me. For me the case has and, will always be, more important than you liking me. But there is a point you reach where you come to realize that the case means more to you than it seems for anyone else. I think i have come to realize I am really more disappointed. Not that you didnt take my idea and run with it but in the fact no one has even tried to follow through on any and all ideas; something I perhaps naively thought this site was about. Investigating the big, small, exciting and the completely, for lack of better words, retarded. Yeah. I put a lot of work into it years ago.

Soze

There are very many excellent posts on this forum. I visit here several times a day. It is a community with a lot of really smart and dedicated people including you.

My problem is that I don't know enough to reply constructively to most posts. Once in awhile there is some element of this case, a specific theory or idea, where logic can be applied but Zodiac, frankly, has stumped us all, and LE, for half a century. So when I don't reply to your posts, or others, it's usually because I feel I have little to offer.

On this thread specifically, it is interesting, but because of the tight timeline at LHR and all the people in the vicinity around the time of the murders, I cannot construct a logical scenario that has Z specifically targeting David and Betty Lou. Therefore, my current thinking is that the victims were randomly chosen. Anything that involves their histories is less interesting to me because I think, to Z, they were simply opportune targets. But I am not the least bit confident I am correct in that, so it is good to read your post and see if I can be persuaded in a different direction. My opinions have evolved quite a bit since finding this forum because that has happened many times.

I hope you continue to post.

[Cragle]

I feel extremely frustrated. I've done my best to try and break things down to something that should be easily understood but I get next to nothing on rare occasions and nothing for the bulk. No questions. No I hate the idea. No i dont understand. Nothing. For years I've assumed it is simply because I'm not liked. Ive, for the most part, have done good to not let it bother me. For me the case has and, will always be, more important than you liking me. But there is a point you reach where you come to realize that the case means more to you than it seems for anyone else. I think i have come to realize I am really more disappointed. Not that you didnt take my idea and run with it but in the fact no one has even tried to follow through on any and all ideas; something I perhaps naively thought this site was about. Investigating the big, small, exciting and the completely, for lack of better words, retarded. Yeah. I put a lot of work into it years ago.

Soze

Hi Soze,

Please don’t let people disparage you. You have done a great job which has obviously taken a great deal of effort. Unfortunately some people seem to be only focused on one person and if your post doesn’t fit their agenda they will throw as much mud as possible. Hopefully you are still frequenting the site as the families deserve people like you simply trying to solve this mess, it needs people looking at different angles.

[Soze]

There is nothing more for me to research when it comes to this case. I am done (in terms of what matters) and at the point of explaining so that i can unload this case and move on to the next case. But how do I explain it? As I said, I've tried breaking it down so that it might be easier to follow and i wasn't getting anything. Perhaps it's like what Tahoe was leading to about the long posts and Marshalls take on not understanding. In both I am not sure how I can break past that. My overall theory involves Steganography. Steganography is all over the internet in terms of data but not in terms of linguistics which is what the Zodiac case involves. The average person would need to read up on linguistics, human communication and, code as it relates to cryptography. I don't see the average doing that. I am not sure how prepared LE would be either given the cryptography. So my communications with you guys is really preparation for LE which I am writing a letter to. I am also intending to send it to the FBI because of the cryptography. I am not concerned about them, for what I would be discussing, they would be the ones to understand. So for the most part it's for LE.

And cragle, yes, that was exactly what I was doing. Thank you.

Soze

[Dag MacLugh]

My take on the Z-codes is this: either Zodiac was/is the greatest cryptographer in history (and therefore identifiable) or his codes are random gibberish.

[Soze]

He is the greatest cryptographer and identifiable. I understand that I will need to show proof of that.

Soze

[Simplicity]

Just giving this a bump up and additional kudos to Soze.