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No, you're not misunderstanding it. We both are!
The material you posted looks like a composite of various materials, and the date of the 4th being cut-and-pasted on it seems very odd, since we know (?????) that the fourth, the Monday, was when the letter was received by the Examiner. (Huh?)
The material I posted is dated the fifth and contains a direct quote from the letter text, references Monday the 4th, and has the banner from the 5th cut-and-pasted on it. (?????) It's also a composite, though.
One of those is correct. Probably.
I suspect the Vallejo library who were kind enough to save cuttings of the articles, spliced them together slightly arbitrarily, on occasion - which is why there's a reference to the telephone call on the bottom of "my" clipping of the fifth. That's probably not contemporary either.
Wouldn't it be nice to have the source? As ever.

smithy wrote:No, you're not misunderstanding it. We both are!
The material you posted looks like a composite of various materials, and the date of the 4th being cut-and-pasted on it seems very odd, since we know (?????) that the fourth, the Monday, was when the letter was received by the Examiner. (Huh?)
The material I posted is dated the fifth and contains a direct quote from the letter text, references Monday the 4th, and has the banner from the 5th cut-and-pasted on it. (?????) It's also a composite, though.
One of those is correct. Probably.
I suspect the Vallejo library who were kind enough to save cuttings of the articles, spliced them together slightly arbitrarily, on occasion - which is why there's a reference to the telephone call on the bottom of "my" clipping of the fifth. That's probably not contemporary either.
Wouldn't it be nice to have the source? As ever.

Maybe Zam, Sandy or anyone else can ask if they have a copy of the actual newspaper dated August 4th, 1969?? Could be the library made the copies because the newspaper copies they had were getting destroyed by all us weirdos who want to see it!

Tahoe!
I've tried again (and restored my stupid post, above).
No, you're not misunderstanding it. I am!

So the banners are correct, and the letter was received on the fourth by the Examiner, and supplied to the VNC on the same day, where it was reproduced in full on that same Monday evening, and also referenced on the 5th, Tuesday. Ah!
Silly me.
Blimey. What some fantastic co-operation between Gibson publishing and the San Francisco News Agency. Wow!
Thanks for straightening me out, T., sometimes I'm a little slow.

Now, if it pops up in the Chronicle on the 5th or 6th, that'll be a full house. Excellent.

smithy wrote:What some fantastic co-operation between Gibson publishing and the San Francisco News Agency. Wow!

I read the Examiner supplied it to VPD so maybe there the communication wasn't between the SF and Vallejo newspapers. Of course, now I can't find it.

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Reading all this brings up another question for another thread...(a cipher guy from SF linked lines in the letters to lines in the cipher?? Ugh...will post elsewhere later)

The VPD got the letter from the SF News Agency and leaked it or gave it IN IT'S ENTIRETY to the VNC so they could publish it on that same day?
Well, maybe......
I would LOVE you to find that!

Yes, that marine biologist nut-job is in several of the papers, spinning yarns. Might be worth a thread indeed. Ah, how we all court fame.

smithy wrote:The VPD got the letter from the SF News Agency and leaked it or gave it IN IT'S ENTIRETY to the VNC so they could publish it on that same day?
Well, maybe......
I would LOVE you to find that!

Yes, that marine biologist nut-job is in several of the papers, spinning yarns. Might be worth a thread indeed. Ah, how we all court fame.

It was somewhere in all the hoopla I read since you posted this. It just stated the Examiner provided the letter to the VPD. Of course I go back and read and cannot find. Maybe I was hilooooscinating.

No matter, it fits fantastically, probably did happen, and I love a conspiracy, so I'm going to choose to believe it even without a source. Shallow eh?

doranchak wrote:

smithy wrote:When did the San Francisco News Agency titles (the Chronicle and the Examiner) first publish the name "Zodiac", in one or both titles?
(Thanks folks, most helpful.)

The earliest I saw in the SF Chronicle was October 15, 1969: https://www.evernote.com/shard/s1/sh/f0bec1f1-1d61-42dd-a4c4-e37c03f37499/e302c587f0b8f44a0dbc7187de5a4e45

But maybe I missed an earlier reference.

D., you're right, not until after Stine, and the letter in October, do the Chronicle/Examiner guys believe that there's any point in printing the news about The Zodiac Killer by name - despite having received the August 4th letter directly.
True!? Isn't that odd.

As I've said elsewhere:

The Zodiac - and for at least two days, the name - was big news in the out-of-town theatre of Vallejo, using promo material sent to the Examiner and then leaked by the VPD, (I like to believe), on the 4th August. The "let's solve the cipher" game (also in the SFE on August 3rd) was played by the Gibson group and the San Francisco News Agency, using shared materials.

After that, reference to the name "Zodiac" isn't used to describe the attacks, for quite a while. The Berryessa reports in the Chronicle of September 29th and 30th use "Code killer" the 1st October "code slayings" and 4th October "Napa Slayer".

The Napa Registers of September 29th, 30th, 1st, "psychopathic killer", and 2nd and 7th October don't mention the name Zodiac.
I suppose the attacker at Berryessa didn't mention the name either, or write it on the door, but the VNC and Chronicle knew the name in August and could have directly related it to the symbol on that door.

In the VNC of Monday September 29th Dave Peterson and Jane Smith don't seem to remember the name, despite linking the crimes with some interesting facts. Jane Smith "Time-Herald Staff Writer" (sic) doesn't come up with any kind of soubriquet in her copy in the VTH of 30th September, either. "Unknown assailant". (She does use that "manic laugh as she stabbed Cecilia" BS though. I think she got that from Ranger White - quite the fantisist.)

The VNC's of 1st, 2nd and 3rd October? The paper that published the name first? Scooping the Examiner and the Chronicle on 4th August?
The 1st says "The search for the psychopathic "Code Killer" was concentrated in Vallejo and southern Napa County today as authorities checked out two suspects." The copy of the 2nd says "Code killer". The third does too. Yes, that's odd. He was "Zodiac" in August.........