NEW! "The Zodiac Killer Is My Father"

Re: NEW! "The Zodiac Killer Is My Father"

Postby traveller1st » Tue May 13, 2014 9:04 pm

morf13 wrote:I saw the youtube video writing. It does resemble Zodiac's writing, but its blurry and only a second's worth of imagery. Let's hope the actual book has writing samples that are clear. I have the audiobook, so I can't see any writing.


Can you describe how the writing sounds? :P
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Re: NEW! "The Zodiac Killer Is My Father"

Postby morf13 » Tue May 13, 2014 9:19 pm

Here's a link to the writing samples of his suspect:
http://themostdangerousanimalofall.com/ ... riel-2.gif

Some of the writing is similar, but some differences too. One major flaw, he has provided writing from the "1990 card", which I assume is the Eureka card. That is meaningless, and not sure why he included it as his suspect died in 1984.
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Re: NEW! "The Zodiac Killer Is My Father"

Postby Tahoe27 » Tue May 13, 2014 9:24 pm

Good point about the Eureka card morf. lol

And the marriage certificate? Who is to say HE filled that out. Is there proof or a way to tell?
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Re: NEW! "The Zodiac Killer Is My Father"

Postby morf13 » Tue May 13, 2014 9:30 pm

I still don't understand this:
http://wlstorage.net/oc/2474.2/258484.pdf

His Son states in his book that his Father died in 1984, and that he went to Mexico to see his Father's grave. So where this 1974 telegram comes from is odd
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Re: NEW! "The Zodiac Killer Is My Father"

Postby murray » Wed May 14, 2014 1:34 am

I have the print book on order -- I will attempt to view it objectively. I struggle with audiobooks because of their tendency to be melodramatic. I won't be surprised if there are some gimmicks in the written story too, and this thing sure came out of the blue.

Still, some of the parallels are intriguing.
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Re: NEW! "The Zodiac Killer Is My Father"

Postby ophion1031 » Wed May 14, 2014 2:39 am

morf13 wrote:Here's my problem, I think his suspect is interesting. I think it's also interesting that the Girl who he kidnapped/married, had Grandparents living in Vallejo in 1969. I think the fact his Father/Suspect, assuming he really enjoyed the Mikado is interesting. Ther'e alot of interesting stuff.

What I can't even accept, or force myself to read(listen to since its an audio book),is the part in which the author, out of left field, suddenly just starts saying that "Van shot Darlene","Van mailed a letter to the editor". No warning, no bother to make a connection or show how he came to be zodiac, or if he knew the victims. None of that. This is no short book, and I can't bring myself to go thru 5 more hours of bullshit in which this guy decides, with no proof, to declare his Father was zodiac.

I think the suspect is interesting, and he may even be zodiac, but I can't finish it, I just can't. If his Suspect turns out to be zodiac, it apparently will be thur dumb luck, because in my opinion, the Author has shown no verifiable evidence or connections.

Luckily, it looks like several people her will have the book soon, so reports should be plenty. I have a feeling, they will mostly be negative.

I hope everybody here understands

Understand completely, morf. I know if I was Stewart, and my birth mother had found me after all these years that I would also want to locate my father. The mother I'm sure gave him the name of his birth father, which got him started. I'm sure the first thing he found out was that his father was deceased. So then what? He wanted to learn more about his father and started doing research on him? But how did he come to the conclusion that his father was Zodiac? I don't get it. I know until someone has read the entire book, we probably won't know. I just find it weird. True, there are some things that fit with the case, but so far I have seen nothing that makes me think he could be Zodiac. Still though, I look forward to learning more about this suspect and see what comes of it.
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Re: NEW! "The Zodiac Killer Is My Father"

Postby ophion1031 » Wed May 14, 2014 2:50 am

Can anyone confirm that Best. Jr was the great grandson (or maybe great-great grandson?) of Earl Van Dorn, the famous US Army General? He was born in Mississippi and is buried there. Maybe Best Jr went to pay his respects and visit the grave? [ in reference to his fender bender in Mississippi ]

Gen. Earl Van Dorn (September 17, 1820 – May 7, 1863) married Caroline Godbold in December 1843. They had one son, Earl Jr., and one daughter, Olivia. Some believe that Van Dorn fathered other children through adulterous affairs prior to, and possibly during, the Civil War.

Earl Van Dorn Jr was born 1854 and died 1884 in Alabama. The only problem is that I cannot find any children for Earl Van Dorn Jr., so I'm not sure how the bloodline continues on.

Gen. Earl Van Dorn - "Known to be physically short, impulsive, and highly emotional, Van Dorn was also a noted painter, writer of poetry, was respected for his skill at riding a horse, and also known for his love of women. This last trait would lead to his death in 1863, when his alleged womanizing became public knowledge. A reporter at the time dubbed him "the terror of ugly husbands" shortly before Van Dorn's murder."

On the right is the Van Dorn battle flag. Anyone know if it resembles anything Zodiac has included in a card or anything? Possible clue.
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"Van Dorn was born near Port Gibson in Claiborne County, Mississippi, to Sophia Donelson Caffery, a niece of Andrew Jackson, and Peter Aaron Van Dorn, who worked as a lawyer and judge. He had eight siblings among whom were two sisters, Emily Van Dorn Miller and Octavia Van Dorn (Ross) Sulivane. His sister Octavia, had a son, Clement Sulivane, who was a captain in the CSA forces and served on Earls staff; he later became a Lt. Colonel. In December 1843 Earl married Caroline Godbold, and they had a son named Earl Van Dorn, Jr. and a daughter named Olivia."
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Re: NEW! "The Zodiac Killer Is My Father"

Postby duckking2001 » Wed May 14, 2014 2:51 am

Is that the only writing sample? Eh, I hate that. "Look at these two words that kind of look alike!" Why don't they ever show us an unedited page of normal writing so that they we can actually get a real idea of what the author's writing looks like? probably because it would be instantly obvious that it didn't match.
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Re: NEW! "The Zodiac Killer Is My Father"

Postby Theforeigner » Wed May 14, 2014 6:06 am

Theforeigner wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FJeVLNGv-g

Youtube introduktion of the book, including a few handwriting samples, they looks good to me :shock:


The handwriting that IMO seem to be a Zodiac match is shown at 0:33-0:35 in the video link above, and it is NOT blurry at all, the handwritten text read:

5th, Earl V. Best, California, and the you can see the upper half of San Francisco.

And Morf just stop the video when that handwriting turns up and then you can study it, maybe someone could make a screenshot of that handwriting and post it.
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Re: NEW! "The Zodiac Killer Is My Father"

Postby up2something » Wed May 14, 2014 6:49 am

Theforeigner wrote:
Theforeigner wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FJeVLNGv-g

Youtube introduktion of the book, including a few handwriting samples, they looks good to me :shock:


The handwriting that IMO seem to be a Zodiac match is shown at 0:33-0:35 in the video link above, and it is NOT blurry at all, the handwritten text read:

5th, Earl V. Best, California, and the you can see the upper half of San Francisco.

And Morf just stop the video when that handwriting turns up and then you can study it, maybe someone could make a screenshot of that handwriting and post it.


Here's a screen grab. Pretty close IMO, if it's legit.
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