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It probably has to do with the contract and who has control over the show. Most of us have probably made contracts where we didn't know exactly what we were getting ourselves into. I have for sure. It is probably something like that.

glurk wrote:

4on4off wrote:I am sorry but I must reiterate. How do Knight and Bauer try to run with this completely BS proposed solution? After even supposedly running it by the code team before taking this run of the mill BS outside the team?

I do not not believe for a minute Dave, Ryan or the Google guy are on board. How could they be when this hunk of poo is worse than Starliper and cecil when it follows the same loose parameters. At least they had a full decipherment.

I can not stress the bafflement stemming from this. Knight and Bauer should not only be ashamed but embarrassed as well. This is down right wrong on so many levels and I am seriously pissed. I am on the brink of losing respect for Knight and Bauer over this.

4on4off-

You (and everyone) should look at Oranchak's article from a few years back here:
http://www.zodiackillerciphers.com/?p=602

The referenced paper by Garlick is here:
http://www.cse.unt.edu/~garlick/researc ... ac-340.pdf

The HC solution manages to do almost ALL of the wrong things, LOL.

-glurk

From the Garlick paper (after he shows a 4 character word using the cypher symbols):

"(The answer was actually ‘dog’ since in my cipher triangle symbols are meaningless.)"

Surely he means "in my cypher triangle symbols are full stops."

I always found it interesting that if you Caesar shift the first 3 letters HER 14 places (Halloween Card) you get 'VSF', very similar to the new symbol also given by Zodiac on the Halloween Card.

Unfortunately following this pattern with the rest doesn't reveal anything coherent. But maybe it's a different Caesar shift every 3 letters or something. Or 14 somehow relates to the dot symbols on the 340.

Or maybe it's a clue to part of the text. Something like - "The four teens shot in Vallejo San Francisco..."

Or it's probably nothing

Here are more details about Craig's solution to Z340 from the final episode of "The Hunt for the Zodiac Killer":

http://www.zodiackillerciphers.com/?p=758

So basically Bauer is saying that Zodiac made a bazillion mistakes in the 340 which gives him the liberty to make anything fit

His effort is clearly not correct. The 408 had mistakes but even those were logical. Like a few mispelled words or missing one word out entirely, probably by accident. However 90%+ of it was perfectly correct and could be deciphered using consistent logic. Craig breaks every rule in the book and his method gets worse as the lines go by. It's no different than what others have done before and claimed to be correct.

My guess is the 340 is either a fake to waste police time. Or it isn't a homophonic substitution cipher like the 408 and requires a different angle of approach. It would make sense for Zodiac to look at his 'Crypto for noobs' book and try a different method. I would expect there to be a message in the majority of the text if any at all, similar to the 408, not just the top few lines.

smokie treats wrote:It probably has to do with the contract and who has control over the show. Most of us have probably made contracts where we didn't know exactly what we were getting ourselves into. I have for sure. It is probably something like that.

I wanted to agree with this... But the more I hear...

Boo! wrote:His effort is clearly not correct. The 408 had mistakes but even those were logical. Like a few mispelled words or missing one word out entirely, probably by accident. However 90%+ of it was perfectly correct and could be deciphered using consistent logic. Craig breaks every rule in the book and his method gets worse as the lines go by. It's no different than what others have done before and claimed to be correct.

I have to be honest, and say that this "solution" is just crap. And no one else in the 'crypto world' agrees with it either.

It seems that most of his students don't think very highly of him as well:
http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRat ... tid=151908

-glurk

From http://scienceblogs.de/klausis-krypto-k ... maybe-not/

Craig Bauer is a friend of mine. He has dedicated his latest book Uncovered to me. It goes without saying that I don’t begrudge him this success. But is his solution correct?

To be honest, I dont’ think so.

I don’t think he would make a cipher that had no meaning. He thoroughly enjoyed outsmarting the cops, so wasting their time with a nonsense cipher wouldn’t be as gratifying as sending one so impossible to break, he could outsmart them while wasting their time. After looking closer at what Craig did, I’m not sure he solved anything. I should’ve done that before I took the bait believing him.

glurk wrote:Zresearch-

In a homophonic substitution cipher:

1) A single letter may have multiple substitute symbols.
2) A single symbol may only substitute for a single letter.

Do you see the difference there?

-glurk

I know the difference but fail to see how it applies.

a homophonic substitution cipher is a cipher in which single letters can be replaced by a series different cipher-symbols which is a great method of avoiding frequency analysis.

It appeared that your issue involved several ciphertext symbols representing the same plaintext letter, which is quite common.

But your issue was the opposite, no?

Does anybody have the "gibberish" plaintext lines which were produced using Craig Bauer's "key"?

It would save me some time here.