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I mean seriously, how much were these guys paid to push this nonsense on the show?

I feel insulted

The best I have ever been able to do, using Orenchak's webtoy is by not solving + and letting that be whatever letter makes a word, by doing that I was able to come up with various solutions all of which were imperfect, with some giberish scattered throughout. I also have tried to channel his "way of speaking" to come up with a few key words, like many many others, ultimately to no avail.

And really, this is all the fellow in the show did -- you can get first three lines to read a myriad of words, the trick is to get words to appear throughout the 340, and what this guy did in the episode is weak, and silly even, taking it to the other "experts?"

No explanation with methodology! Discredits the entire 5 episodes....

MMSox wrote:I believe they did indeed crack part of it. I’m quite surprised.

Just trying to follow along in the show, they make four mistakes on line three, after that it is just like winning in jigsaw puzzle by using a hacksaw.

This is the message we get if we follow the decoding rules they lay out, see how it breaks already on third line. Somehow they presented 8 "deciphered" rows of text.

The four errors on line 3:
- Cipher symbol "B" is said to mean "B", when it meant "H" on line 2.
- Cipher symbol "6" is said to mean "B", when it meant "O" on line 1.
- Cipher symbol "circle with a vertical line" is said to mean "B", when it meant "T" on line 2.
- Cipher symbol "H" is said to mean "M", when it meant "H" on line 1.

Their explanation is that sometimes the cipher letters should be read as similary-looking to the intended symbol.
Some other times it should be read literally, and other times it is a non-similar looking match.
This is not a real cipher system, so if for some reason this really would be Z:s real method I don't think it can be cracked / proven.

To give them some credit, the guy who "cracked" it, says the "words just appear", so he just put in some words that he thought zodiac would say.



Now, this is what they claim it would decode to:



The only show with an "actual" "Artificial Intelligence".

OMG... this even got "me" to crawl out of the woodwork... Ha
If I'd known that you are allowed to plug anything you want into the
first 26 characters, squeegee some letters around, add and
deduct a few, and declare half of the cipher gibberish...
Gosh, I would have solved it myself yesterday,
instead of doing my nails.

CP

(I wanted to like it too!)

My best guess would be that he did find a legitimate solution, I want to run the "gibberish letters" of that solution through a trithemius cipher or Vigenère cipher cracking program.
https://www.dcode.fr/tools-list

I think that they may have only found the simplest part of the code (if even that)

Obviously there are several codes created by several techniques all mixed into a single sheet of text.

You have to separate out each code from the "noise", and what is "noise" in one code may be the heart of another, its several codes interlocking into one sheet.

I think they may have found the simplest piece of it, but I believe there is more information created using other coding methods.

You must first find the section needed, then determine the method used to code it, then crack it, and you must do this several times.

4on4off wrote:wow,, what a disappointment.

1. Several cipher symbols deciphered to 2 letters of the alphabet, one even a question mark as the second. ( I was under the impression this characteristic was the biggest flag of them all when it comes to a forced solution).

It's normal for several cipher symbols to decode to the same letter.

Zresearch-

In a homophonic substitution cipher:

1) A single letter may have multiple substitute symbols.
2) A single symbol may only substitute for a single letter.

Do you see the difference there?

-glurk

Zresearch wrote:

4on4off wrote:wow,, what a disappointment.

1. Several cipher symbols deciphered to 2 letters of the alphabet, one even a question mark as the second. ( I was under the impression this characteristic was the biggest flag of them all when it comes to a forced solution).

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It's normal for several cipher symbols to decode to the same letter.

Sorry if I wasn't clear. What I meant is what Glurk is referring to that I have a problem with. Several symbols have been deciphered into 2 different letters of the alphabet rather than just one.

If that road is to be gone down then past solutions might as well be accepted like Starliper or Cecil.

Here it is...

Zodiac turns in his grave.

As I've posted before, I believe the Z340 is gibberish. But, I don't waste my time trying to solve it, so who am I to say?