340 partial solve via webtoy?

340 partial solve via webtoy?

Postby masootz » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:26 am

i didn't see a thread on this but want to hear feedback from the resident code crackers;

http://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-new ... -john-rose

it looks like he used webtoy to focus on the middle of the 340 and found enough "zodiac" words that it looks promising. no anagrams, no weird rule sets. is this just a coincidence?
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Re: 340 partial solve via webtoy?

Postby masootz » Mon Jun 26, 2017 9:33 am

update: i posted this before plugging it into webtoy. i'm guessing it's a coincidence based on the arbitrary characters (in other words, once you spell "paradice" and "slaves" there's nothing that forces the other words to appear). still would like feedback from the experts.
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Re: 340 partial solve via webtoy?

Postby up2something » Mon Jun 26, 2017 12:30 pm

Not an "expert", but it seems no different than forcing the first three lines to say something "relevant". There are enough non-repeating characters and degrees of freedom to pretty much make it say whatever you like.
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Re: 340 partial solve via webtoy?

Postby Irvine » Mon Jun 26, 2017 2:12 pm

up2something wrote:Not an "expert", but it seems no different than forcing the first three lines to say something "relevant". There are enough non-repeating characters and degrees of freedom to pretty much make it say whatever you like.


I agree
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Re: 340 partial solve via webtoy?

Postby Dag MacLugh » Mon Jun 26, 2017 4:43 pm

I know zip about deciphering codes, so my criticism here may be invalid. Nonetheless, I assert my 1st Amendment rights to post the following: For lo, these many years, hundreds of individuals have attempted to solve the Zodiac ciphers. Excepting the married couple who unraveled one early on, none have succeeded. The reason, I suggest, is that the codes are simply nonsense designed by Zodiac to waste time and resources better devoted to other avenues of investigation. In short, if so many people--many of them quite intelligent--have failed, after so many years, to decipher these puzzles they are likely (and probably designed to be) unsolvable.
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Re: 340 partial solve via webtoy?

Postby Druzer » Mon Jun 26, 2017 10:40 pm

I like that the 9x9 is dead centre and the undeciphered symbol on the far right corner of the 9x9 is the scratched and corrected K which the Exorcist card symbol seems to highlight in the same way the Halloween card seems to point to the Paradice Slaves cross. I also like that this solve can incorporate the idea that the > symbols in the undeciphered 340 can connect to form a big Zodiac symbol in the negative space surrounding the 9x9 centre. There is a pic of that somewhere I think. The idea that he did not meticulously put a coherent message in there but left most of it random works to the idea that the primary intention of the 340 was just to drive us crazy.
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Re: 340 partial solve via webtoy?

Postby Dag MacLugh » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:12 am

Druzer:
Here's a thought: Mix fragments of intelligible sentences into gibberish--enough to persuade theorists that the 340 is a genuine cryptogram. That would keep "the game" going for some time, I venture to say.
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Re: 340 partial solve via webtoy?

Postby Soze » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:46 am

Dag MacLugh wrote:In short, if so many people--many of them quite intelligent--have failed, after so many years, to decipher these puzzles they are likely (and probably designed to be) unsolvable.


I have zero cipher skills. So I have no knowledge of whether this cipher is solvable or not. However, I wouldn't go so far as to say the above. All it will take is one person with the right frame of mind and at the right time to figure it out.

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Re: 340 partial solve via webtoy?

Postby bigbuckdownnc » Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:32 pm

I appreciate all attempts so no disrespect. I just played with webtoy to see if I could come up with other words in the same location. I didn't spend much time at it and this is what I made.
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Re: 340 partial solve via webtoy?

Postby bigbuckdownnc » Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:09 pm

Here's another example using the same words but in a different location. (I added one word just for fun). Point being, it's fairly easy to generate words due to the amount of symbols.
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