Re: Route Transposition and Phenomenon

Posted:
Wed May 31, 2017 4:06 am
by smokie treats
smokie treats wrote:smokie treats wrote:smokie treats wrote:Hi Jarlve. Thanks a lot for all of your work. I just tried the row solver, but maybe doing something wrong. I made a message all homophonic, no transposition 17 x 20, then pasted only 15 x 20 into the solver cutting off two columns. The message seems to solve, but the output is one long row. It doesn't look like your output. Thanks.
Nevermind, Jarlve. I put a period . at the end of each row and it worked awesome. You have contributed so much to this. Thanks a lot. This is a very useful tool.
It worked to stop the rows and show a score at the end of each row, but it added symbols, the rows have more symbols. It must be a paste from Excel issue, not sure. How should I manipulate the message or use the period . ? Thanks
O.k., I converted to ascii, the period is not the row stop symbol. I pasted into Word first, then removed the spaces. By the way, two of the messages in the library are the same. I know about it for a long time but never bothered to mention it. I think message 23 and 24. I made of them this, I like the plaintext a lot. Scroll down for solution row solve mode:
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T H E Y H A D A H O U S E O F C R
Y S T A L P I L L A R S O N T H E
P L A N E T M A R S B Y T H E E D
G E O F A N E M P T Y S E A A N D
E V E R Y M O R N I N G Y O U C O
U L D S E E M R S K E A T I N G T
H E G O L D E N F R U I T S T H A
T G R E W F R O M T H E C R Y S T
A L W A L L S O R C L E A N I N G
T H E H O U S E W I T H H A N D F
U L S O F M A G N E T I C D U S T
W H I C H T A K I N G A L L D I R
T W I T H I T B L E W A W A Y O N
T H E H O T W I N D A F T E R N O
O N S W H E N T H E F O S S I L S
E A W A S W A R M A N D M O T I O
N L E S S A N D T H E W I N E T R
E E S S T O O D S T I F F I N T H
E Y A R D A N D T H E L I T T L E
D I S T A N T M A R T I A N B O N
e D < p E / 9 0 F X i a ; Y > 4 ]
p b f 1 M \ H N O 2 ^ c Z T g G :
\ O / V = h Q 0 ^ d 3 r e D : ; 8
B < X ? 1 V < R \ f q a : 2 / W 9
; l < ` q R X ^ T I U B r Y j 5 Z
k M 7 a = < Q ^ c L ; 0 g J V C h
E < A [ N 8 = W > _ i K e d f D 1
g B ` : m ? ` X R g G ; 6 ^ p b e
2 P o / P M b Y ] 4 N < 0 T I U C
f D = E Z i c ; o I g F G / V 9 ?
k O d Y @ R 2 A W ; h K 5 7 j a e
m D K 6 E f / L H T B 0 P M 8 I `
g n I h F H e 3 P < o 1 m 2 q X U
f G = D Y g n H W 7 / > g : ` W Z
[ T b o G = U e E < ? X c d I O a
= 1 m 1 c n 2 ^ Q / V 7 R Y e J Z
W P : c d 1 T 8 g G ; o K U = h _
= : a b e [ X 7 c f H ? > I V g D
; r 1 ^ 7 2 W 7 h E < M J e f N =
9 K d g / W h S 0 ] e H 2 U 3 Y V
THEYHADAHOUSEOFCR (1194)
YSTALPILLARSONTHE (1163)
PLANETMARSBYTHEED (1100)
GEOFANEMPTYSEAAND (1066)
EVERYMORNINGYOUCO (1287)
ULDSEEMRSKEATINGT (1032)
HEGOLDENFRUITSTHA (1137)
TGREWFROMTHECRYST (1152)
ALWALLSORCLEANING (1164)
THEHOUSEWITHHANDF (1244)
ULSOFMAGNETICDUST (1025)
WHICHTAKINGALLDIR (1207)
TWITHITBLEWAWAYON (1116)
THEHOTWINDAFTERNO (1157)
ONSWHENTHEFOSSILS (1203)
EAWASWARMANDMOTIO (1146)
NLESSANDTHEWINETR (1277)
EESSTOODSTIFFINTH (1087)
EYARDANDTHELITTLE (1316)
DISTANTPARTIANBON (1161)
Would it be possible to make it so I can paste numbers directly from Excel? Thanks.
Re: Route Transposition and Phenomenon

Posted:
Wed May 31, 2017 4:35 am
by Jarlve
Each new row is a row stop, is that okay?
smokie treats wrote:Would it be possible to make it so I can paste numbers directly from Excel? Thanks.
Can you share a paste from Excel?
I just noticed that it doesn't work with numbers yet. Let me get a fix on that.
Re: Route Transposition and Phenomenon

Posted:
Wed May 31, 2017 5:42 am
by smokie treats
Here is an Excel paste, if you still need it. I will try the new version...!
EDIT: I was so excited I forgot the Excel paste.
55 22 14 66 23 1 11 2 24 42 59 51 13 43 16 6 47
66 52 56 3 31 46 26 32 33 4 48 53 44 38 57 25 12
46 33 1 40 15 58 35 2 48 54 5 68 55 22 12 13 10
20 14 42 17 3 40 14 36 46 56 67 51 12 4 1 41 11
13 62 14 50 67 36 42 48 38 27 39 20 68 43 60 7 44
61 31 9 51 15 14 35 48 53 30 13 2 57 28 40 21 58
23 14 19 45 32 10 15 41 16 49 59 29 55 54 56 22 3
57 20 50 12 63 17 50 42 36 57 25 13 8 48 66 52 55
4 34 65 1 34 31 52 43 47 6 32 14 2 38 27 39 21
56 22 15 23 44 59 53 13 65 27 57 24 25 1 40 11 17
61 33 54 43 18 36 4 19 41 13 58 29 7 9 60 51 55
63 22 29 8 23 56 1 30 26 38 20 2 34 31 10 27 50
57 64 27 58 24 26 55 5 34 14 65 3 63 4 67 42 39
56 25 15 22 43 57 64 26 41 9 1 16 57 12 50 41 44
45 38 52 65 25 15 39 55 23 14 17 42 53 54 27 33 51
15 3 63 3 53 64 4 48 35 1 40 9 36 43 55 28 44
41 34 12 53 54 3 38 10 57 25 13 65 29 39 15 58 49
15 12 51 52 55 45 42 9 53 56 26 17 16 27 40 57 22
13 68 3 48 9 4 41 9 58 23 14 31 28 55 56 32 15
11 29 54 57 1 41 58 37 2 47 55 26 4 39 5 43 40
Re: Route Transposition and Phenomenon

Posted:
Wed May 31, 2017 6:01 am
by smokie treats
This is the most significant achievement, tool, so far in the work for a solution to the 340, in my opinion. Check this out, I made a message 17 x 20, all homophonic no transposition, then pasted a 15 x 15 chunk of the message into the solver:
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ILIKEKILLINGPEO (1665)
ABECAUSEITISSOM (1816)
HFUNITISMOREFUN (1604)
ANWILLINGWILDGA (1590)
INTHAFORRECTBAC (1509)
SEMANISTHEMOSTP (1749)
GAROUSANIMALOFA (1533)
TOKILLSOMETHING (1854)
VESMATHEMOSTTHR (1643)
LINGAPPERENCEIT (1614)
ECANBETTERTHANG (1803)
TINGYOURROCKSOF (1626)
ITHAGIRLTHEBEST (1632)
RTOFITISTHATWHE (1776)
DIEIWILLBEREBOR (1522)
You realize that we can find out now if the pivots are causing a distortion? We can paste individual rows, but avoid the pivots. This is really versatile.
Re: Route Transposition and Phenomenon

Posted:
Wed May 31, 2017 6:58 am
by Mr lowe
Hi jarlve and smokie. Just letting you know jarlvie I have used the transposition matrix feature for the last few weeks and made up about 75 of them and run them through . No solves

.. was trying simple patterns trying to pick up the pivots along the way. It has worked flawlessly and will run a few more through. Great feature cheers.
Re: Route Transposition and Phenomenon

Posted:
Wed May 31, 2017 11:53 pm
by Jarlve
smokie and Mr lowe,
I am glad that you like the new features.
Re: Route Transposition and Phenomenon

Posted:
Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:29 pm
by smokie treats
I am enjoying working with the row solver. This message, the 4th one that you made for me:
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17
18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 17 26 27 28 3 29 30 13 31
17 5 32 18 28 33 34 35 36 37 26 19 25 30 38 39 6
13 2 4 23 11 32 40 7 36 17 3 8 34 14 30 5 41
42 43 18 28 35 27 13 4 18 38 44 6 45 33 46 12 9
44 25 22 11 47 48 49 2 50 17 30 13 8 39 37 1 9
3 51 9 5 25 33 16 24 3 18 22 40 17 2 52 53 42
30 54 9 26 55 28 22 56 15 5 42 53 35 34 11 18 45
28 35 46 25 4 11 2 33 18 9 57 28 47 12 36 19 32
13 35 21 17 42 27 53 45 18 26 39 38 7 30 28 35 22
6 1 36 31 53 48 3 14 8 58 53 24 37 5 4 23 41
6 11 8 59 25 12 42 16 34 14 39 18 13 52 45 28 32
35 2 39 17 36 24 35 60 41 12 36 37 53 15 55 16 51
3 28 9 35 53 33 53 39 43 4 42 40 21 42 53 36 26
33 30 54 27 34 6 5 45 25 3 11 13 17 14 39 51 18
26 23 61 62 33 63 44 33 22 41 22 38 8 57 28 35 53
10 2 1 12 42 24 36 34 9 5 28 16 45 32 39 12 30
38 25 35 15 36 54 51 3 13 39 62 22 36 42 45 33 53
1 5 61 2 24 26 25 33 39 4 26 3 34 6 8 61 54
13 11 18 12 37 35 39 19 9 22 53 27 4 2 5 25 31
It is the Indianapolis Speech. Sliding an area around with the row solver I found the words, shark, black, white, then you hear that terrible high pit. I didn't google it, I thought about it all night, knowing that I had heard those words somewhere before. I figured out what it was from memory, then googled it to confirm. I only have a very rough partial solve at this point, I am still trying to figure out what you did because there is a staggered misalignment in the un-transposed message. Not a straight misalignment, but a staggered one. Thanks.
Re: Route Transposition and Phenomenon

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 1:17 am
by Jarlve
Yes it is, well done smokie. The gift of memory.
Re: Route Transposition and Phenomenon

Posted:
Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:36 am
by Mr lowe
The gift of memory.
poetic in itself ..
thats cool Jarlve
cheers