smokie treats wrote:Here is the 340, rotated 90 degrees to the right, and drafted into a 17 x 20 grid:
4 11 19 3 11 34 6 40 16 38 55 17 21 22 5 46 42
20 18 1 37 51 19 36 36 20 15 63 29 19 40 29 15 50
44 47 5 34 5 2 25 10 33 14 28 59 51 47 36 3 6
37 16 19 3 37 5 35 19 3 1 17 26 19 45 12 18 42
6 54 38 19 41 31 7 19 43 36 20 4 18 26 56 13 40
30 7 34 3 50 8 61 32 57 51 40 7 37 21 5 5 29
40 12 20 35 32 22 41 48 19 19 49 24 6 48 6 19 22
6 10 43 26 63 31 53 50 19 11 2 7 39 22 58 23 49
44 38 23 7 42 48 36 56 21 47 16 18 30 11 41 3 23
16 55 17 30 39 24 8 40 20 9 29 23 56 53 11 50 25
19 16 19 38 30 11 8 15 25 9 39 46 23 19 5 2 61
50 14 27 23 51 46 36 17 50 45 26 26 10 23 27 42 51
7 4 28 51 53 20 5 20 18 59 56 51 5 21 27 11 44
23 1 6 28 8 36 20 37 5 43 36 27 15 10 9 23 33
28 12 62 20 14 26 32 38 8 36 28 61 29 34 40 8 51
19 19 13 29 13 11 30 54 20 37 39 53 21 19 14 51 62
19 28 4 52 19 22 30 14 31 55 21 11 57 50 48 58 52
37 20 63 60 40 16 53 3 40 31 15 58 56 33 33 15 55
19 44 20 31 34 53 13 13 25 10 31 1 32 16 19 36 5
13 16 19 19 3 51 23 55 31 47 11 21 54 16 41 33 17
Looks Like Dave has given this a poke so i will have a look at it in another way.
but first i need to convert this over to my own symbol space...
http://codepad.org/jWzF0pLpI have been working on my own pseudo plaint text idea for a few weeks and have been meaning to start a thread on it but it needs a bit more research first to quantify its validity if any. Anyway might as well give it a bit of try now.
So now I take the key from z408 and apply it to your code. keep in mind some of the symbol key space is rejigged.
anyway.
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TREGRCADRIPONLEYA
LETHSEVVLAEPEDPAT
AIECEENIHOTOSIVGA
HREGHEREGTOEECFEA
AKIEFSNESVLTEEFTD
ONCGTBRDMSDNHNEEP
DFLRDLFREEXLARAEL
AISEESRTERENELONX
AINNARVFNIREORFGN
RPOOELBDLIPNFRRTN
EREIORBANIEYNEEER
TOUNSYVOTCEEINUAS
NTTSRLELEOFSENURA
NTATBVLHESVUAIINH
TFWLOEDIBVTRPCDBS
EETPTROKLHERNEOSW
ETTRELOOSPNRMTROR
HLESDRRGDSAOFHHAP
EALSCRTTNISTDREVE
TREEGSNPSIRNKRFHO
first pass looks like some words already in there.
out of interest i ran it throught my word searcher and it came up with 135 words over >= 3 chars
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Dictionary Total lines 354986, Total search hits 135
ADRIP
AIN
AIS
ALE
ALS
ANI
ANT
ANTA
APE
ARA
BAN
BANI
BDL
BVT
CAD
CEE
CEE
DIB
DON
DRIP
EDP
EEN
EER
EFS
EFT
ELA
ELB
EOF
EOS
ERE
ERE
ERE
ERN
ERNE
ESD
ETH
ETHS
EVE
EXLA
EYALET
EYN
EYNE
FGN
FREE
GDS
HAP
HER
HER
HERE
HERN
HERNE
HES
HOT
INN
IRE
ISE
IST
KIE
KIEF
KIEFS
LAI
LAR
LEO
LES
LET
LEY
LIP
LOE
LOED
LOO
LOOS
LSC
NAR
NEE
NEE
NEEP
NEO
NERE
NIS
NIST
OOS
ORB
ORF
OSI
OTC
PAT
PATA
PEA
PEAL
PEALS
PED
PON
PSI
RAN
RANT
REE
REE
REG
REG
REG
REGR
REGT
REI
REL
REN
REV
REVE
REVET
RIP
RLE
RTE
SAO
SCR
SEE
SEE
SEES
SEN
SIR
STD
TAI
TAT
TDR
TEE
TER
TOE
TOS
TOU
TREE
TRP
UNS
URA
URAN
VET
WET
YALE
...we know that the use of KILL is likely.
So if we strip out all the other letters we end up with
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........I...L...
L.......L........
.I.....I.....I...
.................
.KI.......L......
.................
..L..L.....L....L
.I...........L...
.I.......I.......
.....L..LI.......
...I.....I.......
............I....
.....L.L.........
......L......II..
...L...I.........
.......KL........
.....L...........
.L...............
..L......I.......
.........I..K....
So do a period search and see if we can find KILL.....And... no hits

But we have some hits for KIL and ILL
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Searching for KIL
Hit @ 20, mod 104
Hit @ 105, mod 104
Hit @ 190, mod 104
Hit @ 275, mod 104
Hit @ 37, mod 312
Hit @ 122, mod 312
Hit @ 207, mod 312
Hit @ 292, mod 312
Hit @ 139, mod 318
Hit @ 309, mod 318
Searching for ILL
Hit @ 5, mod 4
Hit @ 90, mod 4
Hit @ 175, mod 4
Hit @ 260, mod 4
Hit @ 4, mod 8
Hit @ 89, mod 8
Hit @ 174, mod 8
Hit @ 259, mod 8
Hit @ 141, mod 57
Hit @ 67, mod 66
Hit @ 237, mod 66
Hit @ 315, mod 109
Hit @ 46, mod 186
Hit @ 216, mod 186
Hit @ 122, mod 206
Hit @ 292, mod 206
Hit @ 241, mod 273
Hit @ 65, mod 322
Hit @ 235, mod 322
Bugger practicalcryptography.com is not loading... I calculate a CHI squared = 67.063 and IoC = 0.073
The IoC is a little high but other wise not too far off a Chi of <100 i find is usually a good start.
However the homophonic substitution really messes things up.
Provided you assign the correct number of symbols to E T and all the others letters and the symbol frequencies are generally the same size you will alway get a good chi and IoC statistic.
Regards
Bart