z340 z32 morse theory

Re: z340 z32 morse theory

Postby Marclean » Sat Nov 14, 2015 5:57 pm

In a variant of the code, in which the first 10 lines following the first rule
letters = Dots (.)
Symbols = Daschs (-)
And the final 10 lines reversing this
letters = Daschs
Symbols = Dots
The beginning of the message (theoretical) is almost the same

Marcelo :)

Code: Select all
...----..-.-...--     
.--.--.-...---.--
.---.-....--.--..
.-------.--.--..-
--.-----.-..-----
--.-.-.---.-.--.-
---.----.-...--..
-.-.---.--..---.-
--.---..-..--.--.
---..--.-.---..--



-.-...-----..----
....---..-.-...--
...-...--.--....-
.---........-....
.--.....--.---...
-....--.-....-.-.
-.-.-..-..-.---.-
...--.-.-----....
--..-...-.---..-.
.----..-.--.---..


Code: Select all
.. .- -- -.. -.-
.. .-- .- -. - -.- .. .- -- . --. --- .- ... .- - .- -.
 .. - --- --- .-- .- -. .- --. --- -- . -.. --- - --- .- .-. - -- .- .--.
 --- -. - --- .-.. . - - . .-.
-. --- .-- .. -- -. --- .- --.. -..
-- . --. --- .. --.- .- --. . - --.- ... - --- -. .
- --- ... .- -- . .- .-. . .- -. . . -.. .- -.-- . ... - .- --. . .... . .-.. .. . -- . ... .- -.--
-.. .- ... .-- .-.. .. -.- . -. - .- .. - .. -. ---  .-.. .- -.- . - --- -... .
-- . .-.. . - .- -- . .-.. --- -. . -. --. --- .

IAMDKIWANTKIAMEGOASATANITOOWANAGOMEDOTOARTMAPONTOLETTERNOWIMNOAZDMEGOIQAGETQSTONETOSAMEAREANEEDAYESTAGEHELIEMESAYDASWLIKENTAITINOLAKETOBEMELETAMELONENGOI
I AM DK . I WANT KI A ME GO A SATAN . I TOO WANnA GO ME DO TO ART MAP ON TO LETTER . NOW IM NO A ZD (ZODIAC :?: ) , ME GOI Q(kill :?: ) A GET Q STONE TO SAME AREA NEED A YE STAGE , HE LIE ME SAYD ASW LIKEN TA IT IN O LAKE TO BE ME LET A ME LONEN GO I

http://morsecode.scphillips.com/translator.html
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Re: z340 z32 morse theory

Postby Marclean » Sun Nov 15, 2015 10:31 am

I like this start.
He noted that the sentences are connected semantically.
Marcelo. ;)

I AM DK .
I WANT KI A ME GO A SATAN .
I TOO WANA GO ME DO TO ART MAP ON TO LETTER
NOW IT GO A ZD.

or

I am Decay , I Want Kill a me go a Satan . I too Wanna go me do to art Map on to Letter . Now it go a Zodiac.
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Re: z340 z32 morse theory

Postby Marclean » Sun Nov 15, 2015 3:20 pm

I AM DK , I WANT KI A ME GO A SATAN . I TOO WANA GO ME DO TO ART MAP ON TO LETTER , NOW IT GO A ZD . MAY TIME NO IT Q , STONE TO SET GET READ AS MATH . NO SEES THE MISTY NEED IT . TREE ARK A IN ROAST COMES ME LET A GET IT , OF Q Z

or

I am decay , I want kill me go a satan .
I too wanna go me do to art map on to letter.
Now it go a Zodiac.
May time no it kill.
Stone to set , get read , as Math.
No sees the misty need it :?:
T(h)ree Ark a in Roast.
Comes me let a get it.
Of Kill Zodiac.

Code: Select all
.. .- -- -.. -.-
.. .-- .- -. - -.- .. .- -- . --. --- .- ... .- - .- -.
 .. - --- --- .-- .- -. .- --. --- -- . -.. --- - --- .- .-. - -- .- .--.
 --- -. - --- .-.. . - - . .-.
-. --- .-- .. - --. --- .- --.. -..
 -- .- -.-- - .. -- . -. --- .. - --.-
 ... - --- -. . - --- ... . - -- . . - .-. . .- -.. .- ... -- .- - ....
-. --- ... . . ... - .... . -- .. ... - -.-- -. . . -.. .. -
 - .-. . . .- .-. -.- .- .. -. .-. --- .- ... - -.-. --- -- . ...
-- . .-.. . - .- --. . - .. - --- ..-. --.- --..

http://morsecode.scphillips.com/translator.html

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Re: z340 z32 morse theory

Postby Holmes201 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 2:08 pm

Marclean wrote: I AM DK , I WANT KI A ME GO A SATAN . I TOO WANA GO ME DO TO ART MAP ON TO LETTER , NOW IT GO A ZD . MAY TIME NO IT Q , STONE TO SET GET READ AS MATH . NO SEES THE MISTY NEED IT . TREE ARK A IN ROAST COMES ME LET A GET IT , OF Q Z

or

I am decay , I want kill me go a satan .
I too wanna go me do to art map on to letter.
Now it go a Zodiac.
May time no it kill.
Stone to set , get read , as Math.
No sees the misty need it :?:
T(h)ree Ark a in Roast.
Comes me let a get it.
Of Kill Zodiac.

Code: Select all
.. .- -- -.. -.-
.. .-- .- -. - -.- .. .- -- . --. --- .- ... .- - .- -.
 .. - --- --- .-- .- -. .- --. --- -- . -.. --- - --- .- .-. - -- .- .--.
 --- -. - --- .-.. . - - . .-.
-. --- .-- .. - --. --- .- --.. -..
 -- .- -.-- - .. -- . -. --- .. - --.-
 ... - --- -. . - --- ... . - -- . . - .-. . .- -.. .- ... -- .- - ....
-. --- ... . . ... - .... . -- .. ... - -.-- -. . . -.. .. -
 - .-. . . .- .-. -.- .- .. -. .-. --- .- ... - -.-. --- -- . ...
-- . .-.. . - .- --. . - .. - --- ..-. --.- --..

http://morsecode.scphillips.com/translator.html

Marcelo ;)


It appears you are on to something here. This morse code looks like it is what Zodiac used to fool everybody.
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Re: z340 z32 morse theory

Postby Marclean » Mon Nov 16, 2015 4:40 pm

It appears you are on to something here. This morse code looks like it is what Zodiac used to fool everybody
.


thank you ,Mr Holmes :)
It's just a theory, but then noticed that the "mistake" in writing PARADISE becoming PARADICE, that in another topic turns on behalf of a suspect, I was a little believer that it has some sense.

It is an alternative approach only. Traditional approaches that continue to be made.

The big problem comes down the rules for the acceptance of a solution of this.
Only I have in mind, The Zodiac know or knew of these rules :?: (He would follow them :?: )
Another problem is the multitude of solutions surrounding the case, which makes either before the septic a solution thereof. Definitively, the Z340 was mystified and mythologized (it touches human vanity)
Can that I'm making any sense, but also never made sense (to me) kill people and sending cards with codes

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Re: z340 z32 morse theory

Postby Holmes201 » Mon Nov 16, 2015 6:40 pm

Marcelo,
I agree the cipher contains something other than text. My thoughts initially were that the message could be in Pig Latin. From my understanding now, I know these code breaker programs they are running on the cipher look for any pattern of repeating letter forms. The idea of non text encoding makes very good sense. Morse Code could be the answer here.
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Re: z340 z32 morse theory

Postby Marclean » Tue Nov 17, 2015 5:04 am

The idea of non text encoding makes very good sense. Morse Code could be the answer here.


Yes Mr Holmes ,

Also had, and still have, any idea, not the pig Latin, but Latin, whatever, "sermon cultus" or "sermon vulgaris", also thought in Spanish, have dominion of the Latin languages, know Portuguese my native language, Spanish , Latin for academic training, and understand a little of the other. But sin in not master the English language.
I tried to see if there is anything in this regard (in Spanish or Latin and found nothing on Z340), I thought of other languages ​​(such as German etc) but this really is not my reach.

This analysis, "Morse method," "outside the box", I take into consideration the following assumptions, which, I think, to take into account the linguistic, that is (not want to sound pedantic or something):
- Context (crazy killer in the sixties that killed people and sent letters), for example if the background was another, say a grocery shopping list, dismiss Q representing Kill, and look for words with connection to a shopping list . This is called semantics. Metaphors, antonyms, synonyms etc.


I repeat, I am not sure that this is a solution, but now also not sure it is not. And then how to prove to be :?:
And also, how to prove it is not :?:
I think, frankly, we will never know !!
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Re: z340 z32 morse theory

Postby Holmes201 » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:43 am

Believe me, I've been trying to think of a coding that is not English. Japanese and Chinese writing has many characters. These characters translate out into ideas we can understand, but the translation is not exact word for word into English. Also, Indians have different symbols too. Just like the Navaho Indians were used in the War in the Pacific Theater. We must leave no stone unturned in our quest to solve this mystery.
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Re: z340 z32 morse theory

Postby Marclean » Tue Nov 17, 2015 3:01 pm

Hello, yes of course, everything must be checked.
Look at this, the first line of Z340, discarding symbols and maintaining the letters only, this station, put in alphabetical order.
Appears, the first 5 letters a simple anagram of the name of a suspect, but that is another matter, then appears the sequence PRTV, now remembered in my blog I published something like "Qcode https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Q_code" and amateur or professional radio.
The PRTV letters are only one range as one sees in the figure below, leaving QSU, which means QCode (Question? Answer or Advice)
Shall I send or reply on this frequency (or on ... kHz (or MHz)) (with emissions of class ...)?
Send or reply on this frequency (or on ... kHz (or MHz)) (with emissions of class ...).

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Also, I know, that phonetically in English, Q and U have the same result as Q U KILL YOU.
QSL do not know if have any phonetic value.otherwise, grammatically nec mind the crazy could have meant Q SLAV YOU :?: :|
Anyway, I noticed that there is a slight hint perhaps that this refers to morse code might.
I think if they are, I study the morse the way it was done at that time (abbreviations),(Second war until the sixties) because I believe that Z was either veteran or rookie former military, I really can not say. Also see the whole history of Morse. (Actually, even if it is not nothing is very interesting and will add a good knowledge) because from the time of old telegraphs, for economy and practicality these (abbreviations) were made
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Re: z340 z32 morse theory

Postby Deplorable at Best » Tue Nov 17, 2015 9:18 pm

Marclean wrote:Hello, sharing theory into morse code.
Easy to understand
Marcelo
take a Pi to read it it Z 32
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and Image

4 more
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Holy Smokes. This is wow. If you've nailed it, then I think what Z is saying is something about the map being a gold mine. (Full of clues?)

In any case, if this is it, then just wow.
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