Re: CIPHER STRUCTURE
Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 8:48 pmJarlve, here are my hillclimber results for the Purple H experiment, which is a message with only perfect cycles, no other methods of encryption:
16 20 17 36 12 5 8 1 25 29 26 33 46 9 14 13 24
2 37 42 32 34 12 52 19 43 33 24 39 31 45 47 7 18
4 15 56 51 38 53 60 13 59 44 63 50 1 13 5 26 3
19 55 14 6 40 34 47 24 2 20 39 61 28 35 56 51 11
14 48 22 41 54 24 58 27 40 18 29 13 43 22 8 9 46
53 32 11 45 38 50 59 31 60 58 11 24 16 20 49 36 12
63 44 42 25 5 52 33 46 1 17 57 40 34 4 28 62 47
19 11 56 15 41 55 6 61 13 3 35 13 9 14 30 20 16
48 37 4 57 22 34 26 13 32 54 42 36 16 24 62 49 45
47 13 55 18 29 17 24 41 8 52 39 43 21 53 37 61 51
9 38 59 31 1 19 7 32 49 12 36 40 39 26 50 16 60
33 46 15 56 13 63 44 5 12 36 13 29 54 43 33 16 13
53 35 8 14 48 57 31 24 60 42 44 36 20 17 16 46 63
54 52 25 5 1 12 33 45 34 13 24 29 24 43 58 28 62
47 51 11 56 15 22 55 6 61 59 18 4 26 24 35 37 14
9 30 8 19 24 48 40 21 53 7 57 39 13 60 2 46 62
41 32 34 30 2 12 15 22 45 47 7 13 24 13 55 56 28
61 38 9 51 59 35 13 48 49 17 57 41 62 37 10 20 50
19 39 31 63 5 14 4 15 6 51 32 13 29 44 43 33 36
13 53 24 60 42 54 16 40 49 36 46 63 8 52 25 5 23
The new formula works really well to gather the symbols together!
Daikon: I'll have to read your last messages after this.
General: The cycle hillclimber is working better now, and gathering cycle symbols together. But it's only a row of symbols with scores between them, and obviously randomization is going to make things more difficult in the 340. But it's a start.
Imagine this. Instead of a row of symbols and scores between the symbols, how about a grid of 9*7=63 symbols.
Same approach. The score between symbols 1 and 2 is the two symbol formula score for 1 and 2. Mutate by switching two symbols in the grid and change the scores accordingly. Save higher total scores and keep mutating. A lot of the symbols that are in the same cycles together, even if there is some randomization, should eventually gather together into groups.
Maybe not necessary to make a grid, I don't know. But it's a concept. Keep tweaking the formula and using different test messages until you get the best possible formula. Then apply to the 340. Find the best guess as to the cycles and work from there.
Smokie
16 20 17 36 12 5 8 1 25 29 26 33 46 9 14 13 24
2 37 42 32 34 12 52 19 43 33 24 39 31 45 47 7 18
4 15 56 51 38 53 60 13 59 44 63 50 1 13 5 26 3
19 55 14 6 40 34 47 24 2 20 39 61 28 35 56 51 11
14 48 22 41 54 24 58 27 40 18 29 13 43 22 8 9 46
53 32 11 45 38 50 59 31 60 58 11 24 16 20 49 36 12
63 44 42 25 5 52 33 46 1 17 57 40 34 4 28 62 47
19 11 56 15 41 55 6 61 13 3 35 13 9 14 30 20 16
48 37 4 57 22 34 26 13 32 54 42 36 16 24 62 49 45
47 13 55 18 29 17 24 41 8 52 39 43 21 53 37 61 51
9 38 59 31 1 19 7 32 49 12 36 40 39 26 50 16 60
33 46 15 56 13 63 44 5 12 36 13 29 54 43 33 16 13
53 35 8 14 48 57 31 24 60 42 44 36 20 17 16 46 63
54 52 25 5 1 12 33 45 34 13 24 29 24 43 58 28 62
47 51 11 56 15 22 55 6 61 59 18 4 26 24 35 37 14
9 30 8 19 24 48 40 21 53 7 57 39 13 60 2 46 62
41 32 34 30 2 12 15 22 45 47 7 13 24 13 55 56 28
61 38 9 51 59 35 13 48 49 17 57 41 62 37 10 20 50
19 39 31 63 5 14 4 15 6 51 32 13 29 44 43 33 36
13 53 24 60 42 54 16 40 49 36 46 63 8 52 25 5 23
The new formula works really well to gather the symbols together!
Daikon: I'll have to read your last messages after this.
General: The cycle hillclimber is working better now, and gathering cycle symbols together. But it's only a row of symbols with scores between them, and obviously randomization is going to make things more difficult in the 340. But it's a start.
Imagine this. Instead of a row of symbols and scores between the symbols, how about a grid of 9*7=63 symbols.
Same approach. The score between symbols 1 and 2 is the two symbol formula score for 1 and 2. Mutate by switching two symbols in the grid and change the scores accordingly. Save higher total scores and keep mutating. A lot of the symbols that are in the same cycles together, even if there is some randomization, should eventually gather together into groups.
Maybe not necessary to make a grid, I don't know. But it's a concept. Keep tweaking the formula and using different test messages until you get the best possible formula. Then apply to the 340. Find the best guess as to the cycles and work from there.
Smokie
