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REAL OR FAKE?

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 8:41 pm
by BigMajestic
In the Zodiac dvd bonus features criminal profiler Sarah Pagaling Hagan states the "Citizen" letter as the last Zodiac letter. The "Red Phantom" letter came 2 months later. She worked on the Zodiac case a couple of times for the CA DOJ. I thought I remember Mike R stating he was told one of the '74 letters was a fake due to the dna not matching the others. Could this be the fake? Could Hagan be mistaken on the timeframe? Interesting.

Re: REAL OR FAKE?

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:17 pm
by Tahoe27
I believe Mike R was also the one who talked to somebody who said a woman he knew wrote it. Of course it couldn't be confirmed, but that is what he was told...if I'm not mistaken.

I don't think it was a fake. I don't think it was Zodiac, nor was it made to look like him or come off as him. I credit the envelope for any similarities. Just my take.

Re: REAL OR FAKE?

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:25 pm
by Paul_Averly
Real. And I have a theory on who wrote it:

viewtopic.php?f=106&t=2182

Re: REAL OR FAKE?

PostPosted: Mon May 11, 2015 9:30 pm
by Theforeigner
Special Agent Sharon Pagaling-Hagan’s Behavioral Profile of the Zodiac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_85H2YwKXBk

Re: REAL OR FAKE?

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 12:04 am
by Tahoe27
Theforeigner wrote:Special Agent Sharon Pagaling-Hagan’s Behavioral Profile of the Zodiac

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_85H2YwKXBk


Thanks for posting the video TF. I wonder what she changed her mind about.

Re: REAL OR FAKE?

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 7:47 am
by Norse
Tahoe27 wrote:I don't think it was a fake. I don't think it was Zodiac, nor was it made to look like him or come off as him. I credit the envelope for any similarities. Just my take.


I tend to agree.

But regardless, if the DNA story is true it would seem that Exorcist is the best candidate. The others are pretty subtle (too subtle) if they're fakes.

Re: REAL OR FAKE?

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 8:07 am
by morf13
I think that the citizen letter is definitely Z, and in many ways, lines up well with the Riverside desktop. I think all of the 'confirmed' Z letters are real Z letters.

Re: REAL OR FAKE?

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 7:28 pm
by traveller1st
I think it's a fake ... by Zodiac. ;)

Re: REAL OR FAKE?

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 10:42 pm
by Paul_Averly
You guys that keep having a hard time believing established evidence might want to read stuff by Ray Grant. He believes in NONE of it!

http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/Ray%20Grant.htm

Re: REAL OR FAKE?

PostPosted: Tue May 12, 2015 11:46 pm
by Tahoe27
None of it or every little piece of it. Same difference.