Re: Count Marco
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Sun Aug 02, 2020 9:54 amby BDHOLLAND
Coffee Time wrote:I was going to say, "That's been been around for a while," but...this is
definitely weird.
I'll re-up this version from the old thread, because the image appears cropped when I access it now (maybe it's my browser).
"Chicago Zodiac Clues - Count Marco & Red Phantom"
http://zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=102&t=1357LakeCharlesAmerican-Press_Oct15_1962.jpg
The weirdness is that this other version is from the 1962 Lake Charles American-Press, and yours is from the 1969 S.F. Examiner -- and that stuff about the "Clan" is
not in the original, and Marco's response is completely different...and the 1969 letter is signed "HAPPILY MARRIED" with no mention of Chicago.
I am totally baffled. Did Marco recycle (or invent?) hate mail or did the 1962 complainer write back to him in 1969?
Lake Charles:
https://www.newspapers.com/image/474623 ... ck%2BpaintS.F. Examiner:
https://www.newspapers.com/image/460181 ... ck%2Bpaint
Oh good you sourced it. I saw that elsewhere and thought someone had edited the original because they hadn't sourced it like you did.
Nice one.
Re: Count Marco
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Sun Aug 02, 2020 10:59 amby Jarlve
Nice find BDHOLLAND.
Coffee Time wrote:I am totally baffled. Did Marco recycle (or invent?) hate mail or did the 1962 complainer write back to him in 1969?
I think that the chances of coming up with that same sentece, as long as it is, are very very slim. Must have been a recycle somehow.
Only 87 hits for "Clu Clucks Clan" on Google.
Found this:
http://mk-zodiac.com/RedPhantom1969.html
Re: Count Marco
Posted:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:05 pmby TomVoigt
Count Marco was an entertainer who had a syndicated newspaper column and would construct remarks in order to appeal to various parts of the country. That is all.
Re: Count Marco
Posted:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 12:52 pmby Chaucer
I have also heard rumors that a woman came forward and admitted to writing the Red Phantom letter. I have been trying to confirm this or at least source it, and I have been unable. I’d appreciate any help.
Re: Count Marco
Posted:
Sun Aug 02, 2020 2:25 pmby BDHOLLAND
Jarlve wrote:Nice find BDHOLLAND.
Coffee Time wrote:I am totally baffled. Did Marco recycle (or invent?) hate mail or did the 1962 complainer write back to him in 1969?
I think that the chances of coming up with that same sentece, as long as it is, are very very slim. Must have been a recycle somehow.
Only 87 hits for "Clu Clucks Clan" on Google.
Found this:
http://mk-zodiac.com/RedPhantom1969.html
What it seems to be is that the writer of The Red Phantom Zodiac communication has clued into Count Marco writing his own fan-mail/hate-mail. Just like Maupin felt he had clued into Toschi writing his own fan-mail.
Re: Count Marco
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Sun Aug 02, 2020 4:40 pmby In Bonus Fides
Count Marco was “ created” by the Executive Editor of The San Francisco Chronicle.
He was told “ what” to write for subscription purposes ( Chronicle-Examiner pre conglomeration in 1966)
He was assigned his stories, Limo, Coat of Arms, and, fake regal lineage.
I won’t link it just because.... it’s an easy search.
I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to find out the “Count”, never wrote nor received letters , responses, columns, or any correspondence directly.
It was all through the Editor.
IBF
Re: Count Marco
Posted:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:22 amby Jarlve
Zodiac sure copied/sourced allot of stuff. Though I wonder where he saw Count Marco's handwriting?
Re: Count Marco
Posted:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 2:35 amby Chaucer
Jarlve wrote:Zodiac sure copied/sourced allot of stuff. Though I wonder where he saw Count Marco's handwriting?
I don’t think Zodiac wrote the Phantom letter and frankly the handwriting is so dissimilar that I can’t understand how any connection was made. Perhaps old Sherwood “took a glance” at it.
Re: Count Marco
Posted:
Mon Aug 03, 2020 3:21 amby BDHOLLAND
Jarlve wrote:Zodiac sure copied/sourced allot of stuff. Though I wonder where he saw Count Marco's handwriting?
You'll find lines in other Zodiac communications. You will find them in plenty of non-Zodiac communications also. People draw lines like this it seems.
Do my
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