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This article ran in the 3/10/74 Santa Cruz sentinel,less than 30 days after the SLA letter was received. The article was accompanied by a cartoon. The timing was interesting. It got me thinking about something Graysmith wrote about in his book. Just after the Zodiac used the name, Zodiac, a comic strip came out called the 'zodiac gang', about a group of criminals or villains outsmarting Police. Some people thought that the Zodiac may have used this comic for his name. The issue was, how could Z have known about it? Graysmith wrote that weeks in advance of the comic running in the paper, the cartoon dept has these comics,and therefore, if Zodiac was working at a newspaper,he could know about this stuff well in advance. Wondering if there's any way Z could know about this article in advance? Perhaps, he worked at the paper?

Chet Desmond wrote:As far as I know these final three letters were confirmed after Morrill had retired, so you'd have to find a different document examiner to distrust

Even better! I actually like old Sherwood a bit, so it's nothing personal.

Norse wrote:I just don't see the logic in Z deciding to write a helpful note to the police. Nor was it addressed to the police, for that matter. Furthermore, I don't see the logic in Z - being jealous of the SLA - attempting to regain territory by writing a letter which could only serve to boost THEIR notoriety, further diminishing his own..

AK Wilks: Well, I don't see the "logic" in gunning down teens in lover's lanes, or sending letters to newspapers which give police some info about you - handwriting, word usage, etc. I am sure these things don't make sense to you either. But they made sense to him. Though he is a bit of a self promoter, I actually found reading the books of former FBI Special Agent and serial killer profiler John Douglas interesting and helpful in some respects. he talks about the difference between "MO" method of operation, and signature. MO is HOW the crime is done - luring victims by posing as a person with a broken arm, luring kids into a van with candy, bind up a victim. Signature is more why the crime is done - what the offender is expressing about himself in the crime. He notes that MO may change over time with successes and failures, need to adapt, need to avoid being caught, etc. But he states signature rarely changes. How the offender lures the victim (MO) may change, but the signature of torturing and photographing the victim does not. One offender tied bows around his victims bodies. The killer of Domingos and Edwards (1963) and the Robison family (1968) posed the victims one atop the other. Ted K often picked victims with wood, tree and nature related names and streets, and put bits of redwood and maple bark in his bombs. Why? It was his signature. Douglas noted another offender who painted bombs black. He stated "Why did he do it? It didn't make the bombs any better. But he did it anyway. He felt the need to do it."

If Z hated the SLA or their politics, maybe he thought he was giving a small but helpful clue to the idiot (in his view) press, police and FBI.

As far as referencing other criminals, Manson called Ted Bundy a "momma's boy". Ted K felt compelled to do a bombing right after the OKC bombing, and to mention in a letter that he found that action "deplorable". At the time police and the press speculated that the Unabomber was jealous of the OKC bombers and how much death they caused and front pages they got.

Either that or the Unabomber wanted people to know he thought OKC was "deplorable" and did not want people to think he went from targeted killings to blowing up buildings with women and children. Zodiac himself mentioned a bombing at a SFPD station, to say he did not do it.

So why did Z mention the SLA, who were getting much more headline space than him in 1974? I don't know. He felt the need to do it.

Norse wrote:My take on this is that we have to presuppose that Z turned into a different sort of correspondent if he did, in fact, produce either SLA or Red Phantom. He no longer sought to promote himself at all. He no longer taunted or threatened. He ceased to take credit for his own work, no longer signed his missives, etc. How do we explain this? Was he repenting? Somehow, that strikes me as plain ridiculous...

AK Wilks: Well after the near capture on the Stine murder, Z said he would no longer announce his crimes. He was absent, then I think around 1974 the Zebra killings heat up in SF and the SLA is big news. Do these things draw him back, if not to murder at least to write letters? In the SLA, Red Phantom and Citizen (Badlands) letters he does not even use his name. Who knows? Maybe he is teasing - is this from Zodiac or not? The 1974 Exorcist letter he makes it pretty clear it is from him.

Norse wrote:I don't know exactly why they thought it was him, but I have a hard time agreeing with them. Handwriting? Morrill? No comment. I've had enough of that – and of him.

I'd like to see something else - like a fourth piece of the Stine shirt which was enclosed, but not made public. Give me that and I'll be happy. If it's just handwriting - meh, as the kids say.

Well both Cal DOJ and the FBI identified the 1974 letters as Z. I agree with you handwriting ID is more art than science, so I guess we each give it what weight we feel it deserves. But when Cal DOJ expert and the FBI expert agree, I give it some weight, and then apply my own inexpert knowledge, opinion and instinct.

I believe IMO that after the Lake Tahoe Card Zodiac toned down the complexity and aggressive nature of his correspondence as well as murders because he was under some sort of supervision for his criminal behavior or mental illness. I believe the last 3 letters in 1974 are his attempts at taunting the public while under some sort of supervision (which is why he didn't make direct threats or claim anyone in those last 3 letters in 1974). He was somehow inhibited in those letters (which I believe are his last letters he sent).

I believe he somehow had access to the news during the SLA/Hearst fiasco and the letter was sent on the day that botched bank robbery happened. He simply used the event as an excuse to taunt the public and tie himself to a terrorist attack (perhaps he was living vicariously through the SLA fiasco bc he wasn't able to carry out his terroristic murder sprees in reality). And I think he noticed SLA reminded him of the word slay and tried to reference the etymology to old Norse without fully being aware of its specific meaning. It wasn't about him being right, it was about them getting the letter and him hinting through its creepy nature that it was Z.

Maybe during the last 3 letters in 74 Z had someone watching him. There's a reason why his last few letters are a little more ambiguous - in case someone supervising him were to read them before they were sent off.

Generally fair points as per usual, AK.

The one thing I do not agree with, is how we should – if one can put it like that – treat the “logic” of Zodiac's behavior.

I think you're going too far in a certain direction here, suggesting (as I read it) that because Z was a crazy killer (and he was, of course) what he opts for doesn't have to make any sense. This is a slippery slope, in my opinion, as it makes it possible to claim that he was capable of anything. Based on his “canonical” behavior, however, he wasn't. There is a certain pattern one can recognize – and then, in this particular case, a distinct break with that pattern.

He moves on from promoting himself, and issuing threats and taunts – to something very different in the three letters following Exorcist. The difference is so distinct that it requires an explanation. And I don't think what you refer to above qualifies as a good enough explanation. Just my opinion, of course – and I do respect yours, as you know.

Those are good points Norse. And not a bad idea PP. Something seems to have changed Zodiac by 1974. The closeness of almost being caught for Stine? On probation? Living at home or with others? Or just a desire to play a mind game by sending a different kind of letter?

As I see it there are two basic possibilities:

a) Something happened which made Z behave differently. He still had a desire to get published (obviously, or he wouldn't have sent the letters in the first place), but he no longer desired to promote himself or his “thing”.

b) He didn't write those letters.

I think somewhere between April of 1971 and January of 1974 the Zodiac was in some sort of custody or institution because the letters stopped. Then in January of 1974 or so Zodiac was under some sort of supervision (conservatorship? Probation?) that left him unable to go out into public (and kill) and unable to implicate himself directly in his Correspondence (should someone supervising him read his letter before it was sent off).

AK,

I thought your post was great in terms of understanding the deviance. The only discrepancy that I saw was the suggestion that a signature will never change. The theme of a signature will definitely stay the same but the objects (I use that term loosely) can change very frequently. In terms of understanding signature is the ability to pick up on what the "theme" is by looking at the various "objects" you have to work with. For example, a killer could pose a victim with arms outstretched in one killing, position candles in another killing but without the victims arms outstretched, and then in another killing have the victim positioned as praying. They can change up their signature to the point where nothing appears to be the same. Where signature comes alive is in the theme. In this case the theme is religion. The theme is whats important and its this theme that has to be realized. The Zodiac didn't deviate. He always remained the same.

Soze

I don't think Z intended for his SLA letter to be found and linked to him. How could he know it would be? It simply doesn't contain any clues,threats,etc. That tells me, somebody at the paper was in charge of carefully screening every letter coming in to the Editors, looking for letters that may be from Z