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Re: Marking after the letters SLA

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:37 pm
by doranchak
And the "y" mysteriously appears in "slay"

Re: Marking after the letters SLA

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 2:49 pm
by Emann
And the A in the word initials. One is capitalized the other lower case!

Re: Marking after the letters SLA

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 3:41 pm
by mike_r
This is just a guess but might one have been released to the public and one be from police files that were released much later? Maybe they made slight alterations in the one that was made the public and only the author would have been aware of them and could have identified them? Was this a way to rule out false confessions? Just a guess.

Mike

Re: Marking after the letters SLA

PostPosted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:07 pm
by vasa croe
mike_r wrote:This is just a guess but might one have been released to the public and one be from police files that were released much later? Maybe they made slight alterations in the one that was made the public and only the author would have been aware of them and could have identified them? Was this a way to rule out false confessions? Just a guess.

Mike


I am thinking along the same line. One is obviously thicker lettering than the other and some characters are very different. Something the original writer would have noticed. From the "a" being lowercase to capital to the "M" having a curve at the start.

Re: Marking after the letters SLA

PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:19 pm
by traveller1st
Without trying to find out the exact provenance of the published letter there are several possibilities to explain what might be going on. I think they are 'close' enough to indicate that the one we are used to is a reproduction. Picking up on the differences listed by everyone on this thread it seems apparent that the letter we're used to has some reasonably major alterations or corrections.

Looking that the side by sides and dave's animation you can see that there is a 'cut-off' starting at the top left and encompasses the D, M and E. The top halves of the M and E appear to have been reconstructed. The D is cut off at the mid point. The overall appearance of the thickness is obviously different and I put that down to copy degradation and this seems to have dictated the style of the reconstructed sections.

The uppercase A in initials vs the lowercase is quite telling. That's a reasonably hard thing to get wrong so I have to assume that the degradation must have been reasonably severe to have resulted in that mistake. As I have already stated we don't know the provenance of how we ended up with that altered version but something that I think might have come into play in the right time frame was fax machines. Ok for typed letters at the beginning but not for anything else. I mean, even when I was starting out as a designer the bloody things were useless so I can only imagine how they must have been in the very, very beginning. We were constantly having to redraw things from clients because they had been faxed and with deadlines looming there was no choice.

It depended on the type of fax and the original and so on and so on but the track record and the quality was not great. Add in other factors like ink levels, spread etc and it was a lottery sometimes as to what would come out if the things lol. Also it has to be remembered that the original would have been photocopied before it could be faxed so that's another level of integrity and definition loss. There's every chance too that it was photocopied whist inside a protective sleeve with one of those nice cataloging stickers on it - possibly right across the top half of those uppercase letters on the top line. That would have been cut out of the image at the other end (literally) in pre press to get the things ready for print. You had to do what you could to get things ready because more often than not those presses didn't wait and if they really had to well someone was paying for that cost. It was cheaper to make do with what you could.

In that respect I see nothing suspicious about what we are looking at here. You kids don't know how good you've got it with the digital age. :P

Re: Marking after the letters SLA

PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:14 pm
by Mr lowe
yes the sla in one of them nearly looks like the A is a 14

Re: Marking after the letters SLA

PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 5:50 pm
by bmichelle
morf13 wrote:I'm not 100% sure these are exact copies of each other:

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The letter K in the word KNOW, in each sample are not the same,also the same with the K in KILL(unless copying process is causing this). I would ask Trav to see if he can enhance this. The K's on the left look like 3 strokes, and the K's on the right look like 2 strokes. Also, the M's in the word, MR look different-BY A BUNCH



The first one looks compressed-But still- some of the spacing of letters are really off. The (L's) look different and some of the slanting of words are not the same. Could be that Z mailed more than just one of these letters out. Why not mail out the same letter- in hopes it would be received by the right person to acknowledge it is a "Z letter."

Re: Marking after the letters SLA

PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:53 pm
by up2something
Pretty sure they're copies of the same letter. Differences are probably just an artifact of the copier technology of the times.

Re: Marking after the letters SLA

PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 9:58 pm
by Mr lowe
one may have been used as a prop in a movie shot? similar to the door reproduction.

Re: Marking after the letters SLA

PostPosted: Sun Mar 22, 2015 4:06 am
by Norse
Not sure what people are seeing here, to be honest. Looks like a copy to me - it's all there, just distorted and with artifacts (as you'd expect).