Could this card be from a hoaxer?

[mccririck]

What evidence is there to believe it is from the real Zodiac?

Note there was a thread started in 2013 about this card and a few others: viewtopic.php?f=78&t=168

[Cragle]

A piece of Paul Stines shirt !

[Richard Grinell]

The configuration of paradice and slaves can be generated in the 340 cipher, bisecting it vertically and horizontally, 17 by 17 in cruciform, so either the Halloween card author discovered this connection, or he was the creator of the 340 cipher, which means he was the author of the Bus Bomb letter & sender of the shirt piece. It would also mean he was the author of the October 13th 1969 letter and Melvin Belli correspondence - and the murderer of Paul Stine. Also, the Halloween card has "by knife", which was written on the car door at Berryessa and wasn't released into the public domain. If you chuck out the Halloween card from the Zodiac communications, then you have to chuck out all the above communications too - along with the Stine murder. The Halloween card was 100% Zodiac.

[mccririck]

Right, firstly, this card did not come with a piece of shirt. Let's make that clear.
Secondly where is the evidence for the 340 cipher containing paradise / slaves? It has never been decoded properly. Perhaps someone has forced that out of it but that does not mean it's correct!

[zodiacSleuth]

A piece of Paul Stines shirt !

A piece of Paul Stines shirt was never mailed alongside the card.
There is no evidence at all that this card was mailed by the same man committing each of the murders.

[masootz]

Right, firstly, this card did not come with a piece of shirt. Let's make that clear.
Secondly where is the evidence for the 340 cipher containing paradise / slaves? It has never been decoded properly. Perhaps someone has forced that out of it but that does not mean it's correct!

if you look at the cipher without decoding and make some inferences you can kind of, sort of, maybe eke out something akin to PARADICE in the center going down vertically and SLAVES horizontally. there are also some indications of "by fire", "by rope", etc in each quadrant. it appears to be more than chance but so does a lot of zynchronistic pieces of the puzzle.

[Cragle]

A piece of Paul Stines shirt !

A piece of Paul Stines shirt was never mailed alongside the card.
There is no evidence at all that this card was mailed by the same man committing each of the murders.

It was a joke alluding to the zodiac movie hence the laughing emoji. Apologies if this was unclear.

[Jarlve]

What evidence is there to believe it is from the real Zodiac?

I don't know but it is in his style. I agree that it could be a hoax.

Zodiac sourced allot of stuff, also true for this card.

The "sorry no cipher " writing is very Zodiac.

[Cragle]

Personally I agree with Richard, like he states above the “By knife” on the car door, which was not common knowledge at the time, being included in the card is just too coincidental in my mind. Also the fact that the N was written the wrong way around thus drawing attention to that particular phrase on the card just seems too similar to be a copycat. But who knows.

[Richard Grinell]

Right, firstly, this card did not come with a piece of shirt. Let's make that clear.
Secondly where is the evidence for the 340 cipher containing paradise / slaves? It has never been decoded properly. Perhaps someone has forced that out of it but that does not mean it's correct!

I was careful to say in the above post that the 340 cipher can "generate" paradice and slaves (not containing), which is fact. Not only that, but it can generate paradice and slaves exactly bisecting the 340 cipher both horizontally and vertically in the same fashion as the design on the Halloween card. This is the first "coincidence". Then of course, we can find By Fire, By Gun, By Knife and By Rope in the correct quadrants. That is the second "coincidence". Then somehow this author just happened to include the "by knife" attribution, which was written on the Karmann Ghia but unknown to the public. This is the third "coincidence". Then we have "sorry no cipher" fashioned into another cross. Why do you suppose he didn't write it once? I'll let you work that out. I could give you several other reasons in combination with the 13 Hole postcard, but I suspect you already decided it was a hoax before you asked the question.

It is probably better approached by you giving 5 reasons why the communication is not Zodiac.