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Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:32 pm
by Soze
Jarlve wrote:This may have been noticed before but the spacing in the line "This is the Zodiac speaking" from the cletter ed Zodiac letters seems to be a bit unusual, but consistent. More or less the line seems seperated in 3 units, "This", "is the Zodiac" and "speaking". Sometimes the word "speaking" goes downwards just to keep up with this scheme. Who would do such a thing?! Typographical awareness?


Not to tear apart your "this is the zodiac" topic and believing that its still in line with the subject, but his antics in this line, are not the only place. You can see it as well in the 7/69 letter where he mentions what other papers he wrote to, specifically, where he mentions the Vallejo Times and then leaves a large space after. He ends up busting apart the word examiner rather than adjusting the space. To me its like he is trying to put focus to the Vallejo Times rather than Vallejo Times Herald.

Soze

Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:50 pm
by traveller1st
Could be but to what end or purpose?

If I were to hazard a guess I think remembering which newspaper names were going where was maybe too much for him and he misjudged the spacing. It might be that he wrote the letters, leaving those areas blank until the end to make sure he didn't get the names mixed up. Just a thought / guess.

Either that or he has some sort of kerning disorder lol.

Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:06 pm
by Soze
If I remember correctly, as it has been 5 years since I delved into it but, I believe the stamps correlated to the number of times each paper changed hands on a permanent basis. Don't hold me to the changing hands part. I don't feel that's precisely the words I'm shooting for. Publishers maybe? I'll have to go back and look.

I did look. The chronicle was the daily dramatic chronicle before settling to its permanent name. Two changes. The examiner was the democratic press before settling to its permanent name. Two changes. The Vallejo times went through two sets of two before settling on its name but presenting the information would take further digging.

Soze

Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:21 pm
by traveller1st
It's a cute thought. My own feeling on it is a bit simpler. Those three letters were mailed in San Francisco. Zodiac had a penchant for over postage and since Vallejo was further away than the other two addresses which were in San Fran, I think he just doubled up on his doubling up. So to speak.

Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:39 pm
by Soze
traveller1st wrote:It's a cute thought. My own feeling on it is a bit simpler. Those three letters were mailed in San Francisco. Zodiac had a penchant for over postage and since Vallejo was further away than the other two addresses which were in San Fran, I think he just doubled up on his doubling up. So to speak.


You make it sound like Vallejo was in another country. Doesnt really make sense to me that the Zodiac would use insurance of arrival as a reason to use double postage when two of the places he wrote to were in the same city he mailed from.

Soze

Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:51 pm
by traveller1st
Soze wrote:You make it sound like Vallejo was in another country. Doesnt really make sense to me that the Zodiac would use insurance of arrival as a reason to use double postage when two of the places he wrote to were in the same city he mailed from.

Soze


Like I said .. simple(r) lol.

It could be that the stamps tell a story. I'm not sure there's ever been a satisfactory theory on it much beyond - he didn't know how postage worked. Maybe I just haven't read it yet. Zodiac didn't seem to really do much that was straightforward. I had a look at the envelopes again and I can only surmise that either he thought he was on mars when he sent the letter to Belli. Or he was suggesting that Belli was?

Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 3:54 pm
by Soze
traveller1st wrote:I had a look at the envelopes again and I can only surmise that either he thought he was on mars when he sent the letter to Belli. Or he was suggesting that Belli was?


I believe Belli was from another planet at some point in his life.

Soze

Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:06 pm
by Tahoe27
Soze wrote:
traveller1st wrote:I had a look at the envelopes again and I can only surmise that either he thought he was on mars when he sent the letter to Belli. Or he was suggesting that Belli was?


I believe Belli was from another planet at some point in his life.

Soze


I've actually become "friends" with his ex-wife Pat. We've communicated privately on many occasions...she has some interesting stories to tell about him! He wasn't as wealthy as it would seem and he used to steal silverware from fancy hotels. lol (sorry off subject)

Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:11 pm
by Soze
Tahoe27 wrote:
Soze wrote:
traveller1st wrote:I had a look at the envelopes again and I can only surmise that either he thought he was on mars when he sent the letter to Belli. Or he was suggesting that Belli was?


I believe Belli was from another planet at some point in his life.

Soze


I've actually become "friends" with his ex-wife Pat. We've communicated privately on many occasions...she has some interesting stories to tell about him! He wasn't as wealthy as it would seem and he used to steal silverware from fancy hotels. lol (sorry off subject)


:shock: Whoda thunk!

Soze

Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

PostPosted: Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:27 pm
by morf13
traveller1st wrote:It's a cute thought. My own feeling on it is a bit simpler. Those three letters were mailed in San Francisco. Zodiac had a penchant for over postage and since Vallejo was further away than the other two addresses which were in San Fran, I think he just doubled up on his doubling up. So to speak.


Graysmith had a neat idea about the stamps on the cipher letters, he put 2 on the paper that got the 1st part of the cipher, 3 on the one that got part 2, and 4 on the one that got part 3, maybe trying to keep track somehow.