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This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

Postby Jarlve » Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:51 am

This may have been noticed before but the spacing in the line "This is the Zodiac speaking" from the confirmed Zodiac letters seems to be a bit unusual, but consistent. More or less the line seems seperated in 3 units, "This", "is the Zodiac" and "speaking". Sometimes the word "speaking" goes downwards just to keep up with this scheme. Who would do such a thing?! Typographical awareness?

There are 10 samples with 2 different writing styles and in one case a mix between the two (sample 9). One is slanted towards the right, the other is not.

- All letter "k" are three stroked.
- 7 times the letters "Th" in "This" are connected.
- 1 time the letters "ea" in "speaking" are connected.
- 5 times the dot over the letter "i" in "Zodiac" appears over the letter "a".

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Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

Postby PinkPhantom » Wed Jul 22, 2015 12:30 pm

The portions written in thicker felt/ink are more upright. The thinner the ink the more slanted. I think the thickness of the felt/pen somewhat forced him to write more spaced/printed characters so they could appear clearly. IMO it's difficult to read script when written in a thicker felt/ink because sometimes each script bleeds/flows into the next - especially if the script is written in italics/slanted/cursive/compact and not printed/spaced out.
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Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

Postby Jarlve » Wed Jul 22, 2015 1:04 pm

PinkPhantom wrote:The portions written in thicker felt/ink are more upright. The thinner the ink the more slanted. I think the thickness of the felt/pen somewhat forced him to write more spaced/printed characters so they could appear clearly. IMO it's difficult to read script when written in a thicker felt/ink because sometimes each script bleeds/flows into the next - especially if the script is written in italics/slanted/cursive/compact and not printed/spaced out.


That makes allot of sense, thanks. Writing adjusted to pen tool and not the other way around.
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Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

Postby traveller1st » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:19 am

Jarlve wrote:Typographical awareness?


It's always been a possibility. Determining the level or degree of it has been more problematic. My own background is in those areas and I've always been reluctant to attribute or ascribe it to Zodiac. Simply because I was unsure if I was seeing things because I wanted to see them, or because I could.

There's an almost inescapable lean towards those areas though in Zodiac's own behaviors.

Nice spot by the way on the spacing. That, I suspect is just his ingrained spacing habits. What is interesting to see though, when you present them together as you have here, is it's a bit, actually a lot, like looking at a font family. Isn't it? Also consider the Belli letter, specifically its envelope and the suggestion that the 'style' of the printing on it was done to mimic or copy the 'font' of the sign at Belli's actual address.

Then there's the latter letters of '74. What are they, if not, different 'fonts'? That, btw, is something different to simply disguising your handwriting. Whoever produced those letters, and assuming it's the same person, created a consistent and different style for each one that shared handwriting commonalities strong enough to identify them. Even back to the Riverside stuff. The desk, the envelopes. I'm very hesitant to offer it even as a theory but it could also explain the so called discrepancies in this aspect of the case. It's also possibly a bit "clever". Creating font variations rather than wildly different styles. It's been a thought of mine for a while now that the purpose of those latter letters was an extension of this practice when he still wanted to play and get attention but was less constrained by the immediate need to be the Zodiac in writing terms.

There's so many things in the evidence Jarlve that to me, just screams specific knowledge and or practice in such fields. I'm not the only one to have thought it either. I could well be wrong but it keeps coming back to this. There's something about the 'graphic' nature of Zodiacs campaign that hints at something more than amateur.
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Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

Postby morf13 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 8:48 am

Interesting about the TH I thought he connected the tops almost always, but he got away from it a bit.
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Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

Postby Jarlve » Thu Jul 23, 2015 9:33 am

@traveller1st,

Yes they look like fonts, it's an interesting idea. I sometimes wonder about Rick Marshall being the Zodiac because of the graphic nature you mention. I just took another look at the following image of Rick Marshall. Notice the abnormal wide spacing after the name Mabel Normand, notice similarity for the letters d, a and e. It doesn't all match but I certainly would like to see more of his writing...

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I think in general you are also hinting at something which is very hard to explain. Perhaps it could be called "inconsistent consistency".
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Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

Postby Jarlve » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:01 am

I just read it was Bob Vaughn who made that poster?
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Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

Postby morf13 » Thu Jul 23, 2015 10:33 am

Jarlve wrote:I just read it was Bob Vaughn who made that poster?


Bob Vaughn was a Friend of Marshall's who was into movies, etc
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Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

Postby traveller1st » Thu Jul 23, 2015 12:07 pm

This is bit like being in that scene in the movie lol. Quick Jarlve .... feign a sudden disinterest and escape.

Yes, I think/thought of that poster too earlier. It's not an area of the case I've gotten around to looking into too much. I guess I've always assumed it had been well explored by other's to no satisfactory avail. I have to say though I just did a quick google search and there's certainly some 'zync' out there.

https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=bob+vaughn+zodiac&newwindow=1&safe=off&rlz=1C1CHWA_enGB645GB645&espv=2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAWoVChMIoruU9tvxxgIVUQTbCh28BQ7b&biw=1280&bih=607&dpr=1.5#imgrc=_

... and a lot of images of 'Robert Vaughn' the actor. :D
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Re: This is the Zodiac speaking (compilation image)

Postby Jarlve » Thu Jul 23, 2015 2:15 pm

Edit: made up this short timeline in attempt to be funny. But not to make fun of anyone, just to make sure.

06/08/2027... The MQC, Google's ever expanding modular quantum computer cannot keep Zodiac Killer related information out of it's search results anymore and have stated "It's not a virus, but an aspect of the human condition and therefore cannot be cured out of the system."

20/12/2063... Zodiac Killer Suspects World War 2 is at an end! With grave losses on all sides all 1.073.088 ZKS factions have officially laid down arms. Though some skirmish reports from Mars are still coming in. Morfoid the 2nd has been elected as president of the planet Earth and has dictated "From now on all ZKS factions will work together towards identification of the Zodiac Killer."

23/07/2076... The Wolfram Research VALIS project has concluded it's 11 year long search on the identity of the Zodiac Killer and has stated that a probable suspect cannot be brought forward and the only possible solution is to start a complete reiteration of our universe. This option has however been downvoted by the Morfian council, which stated "It would simply reiterate the same problem in another universe." The identity of the Zodiac Killer remains a mystery.
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