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Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

Posted:
Tue Jun 09, 2015 8:25 pm
by Talon
Norse wrote:I agree with doranchak's point above.
The fact that KQ used monarch sized paper is interesting. Just like it's interesting that, say, Sullivan worked at the library. Or that Ted K actually killed people. Plenty of proposed suspects have something in that vein which no other proposed suspect can match. But the argument, if we can call it that, is seriously flawed. It presupposes that Z had to have been one of the known and proposed “POIs” people have promoted over the years.
If we're looking in a limited – but perfectly artificial – pool of proposed suspects for the one guy who fits the bill the most, well, I'm sure we can narrow it down to one “winner” based on whatever criteria we decide on.
...and Arthur Lee Allen actually wore a Zodiac watch with crosshair symbol right on the face!! Hard to beat that.

Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

Posted:
Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:25 pm
by mike_r
It sort of makes me scratch my head when I use Z's behavior and pick out the unusual things he did that made him Z and I am accused of cherry picking behaviors that KQ demonstrated and comparing them to Z and saying, "See, he was Z." I didn't pick out KQ's behaviors and compare them to Z. I used Z's unique behaviors and showed that essentially (and as far as I know, to the exclusion of all other suspects), KQ demonstrated many/most of them. Make your own list of Z behaviors. What made him different from you and me? The need for attention, writing on Monarch sized paper, writing on car doors, obsession with cars, etc.
We do not know that Z ever wore a Zodiac watch...but we do know that he had ties to BOTH England and to Norse culture.
Mike
Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

Posted:
Wed Jun 10, 2015 6:53 pm
by PinkPhantom
Z had an obsession with cars? That's a first. Never took him for the type to thumb through auto trader or break his bank for some fancy wheels.
I think he was just technically minded, like an engineer would be. Imo
Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

Posted:
Wed Jun 10, 2015 7:57 pm
by morf13
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We do not know that Z ever wore a Zodiac watch...but we do know that he had ties to BOTH England and to Norse culture"
He had ties to England? Based on what? And as far as the 'norse' connection, how do we know he didn't read about that stuff in a book or magazine?
Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

Posted:
Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:07 pm
by Tahoe27
mike_r wrote:We do not know that Z ever wore a Zodiac watch...but we do know that he had ties to BOTH England and to Norse culture.
Mike
I totally admire your research efforts, but comments like this aren't any different than those of whom you criticize.
Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

Posted:
Wed Jun 10, 2015 11:30 pm
by snooter
I have never seen any difinitive proof of a rune or other nordic symbol on anything Z that is considered beyond a doubt..X holds my interest more than most others...but i myself would love to hear a Z connection to england (jaguar may be??)...I can in some sense buy into ever so softly that X may have been furious with the yutes of the 60's just do to his age..X was well above age to be considered the establishment.i dunno..kinda floored by the whole england connection
Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

Posted:
Thu Jun 11, 2015 1:03 am
by AK Wilks
Well in 1974 Zodiac wrote the letter saying SLA is an old Norse word for kill.
The two symbols on the Halloween card are Norse symbols...and a lot of other things...maybe. Even the Z symbol is a Norse rune but also other things. Then you have some Germanic things like Z saying he had a Luger.
The British thing IMO is a lot weaker. I think some of it came from langauge like kiddies, some from the watch found near Bates supposedly a type sold in Britain.
Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

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Thu Jun 11, 2015 5:38 am
by morf13
The Norse stuff,Z could have read about.
The English stuff, think he may be talking about use of the word, 'shall', which we have already proven was used a lot in literature, writing,etc, (and according to some People on here is used very frequently

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And again, seems as if my question is somehow getting passed over, why is it, that the only writing we have seen from MrX, besides an autographed car door or two, is a social security application which I provided? These are fair questions, the likes of which I've faced with Ross Sullivan.
Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

Posted:
Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:35 am
by bmichelle
I would agree with Morf and say I would like to see more writing samples even if they are not printed.
Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

Posted:
Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:41 am
by AK Wilks
Morf I was just answering the question about why some think Z knew about Norse. Absolutely a person does not have to be born in a Scandinavian or Germanic country to know about Norse. The Prose Edda is the main book of Norse stories, myths and culture and certainly anyone can buy one. (I know about the book because TK had one in his cabin).
Your other questions are legit and it is certainly up to each person with a poi to try to show as much handwriting as possible. As much everything as possible, good and bad or inbetween.