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Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 9:44 pm
by mike_r
This stuff is just mindless, amateurish speculation. Does anyone mean to tell me that if a strong circumstantial case did not exist against KQ any of these brothers would have merited this type of scrutiny?
Of course, I've looked at all of them behind the scenes. The real case, however, is against KQ and KQ only. He is the one who wrote the letter to the Chron.
He is the one who lived near the PH crime scene and was spoken to by AP after the Stine murder. He is the one who lied to me about his whereabouts that night at our 2006 tete-a-tete.
He is the one who wrote to me TWICE on Monarch sized paper. (Again, I am begging someone to tell me which other suspect ever wrote
even one letter in their lives on Monarch sized paper, so I can end my delusion of thinking that NO OTHER suspect can be proven to have even known what Monarch sized paper was.)
KQ had the car entered in Riverside on October 30, 1966. KQ is the one who used to autograph cars in felt tip pen. KQ fits the power-assertive profile of Zodiac.

And as for KQ being an "Imperial Wizard" or some such thing, prove it! Saying someone *could* have been something is useless. Lots of people could be or could have been lots of things...

Mike

Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 10:43 pm
by Barry S.
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Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:40 pm
by Zamantha
Mike R. is a pretty respected poster and researcher. He reports his findings and did some excellent research, more so then a lot of posters. He doesn't play games & is very straight forward.

What he posts right here, explains why KQ aka Mr. X became an interesting POI.


( quote of Mike R's :
He is the one who lived near the PH crime scene and was spoken to by AP after the Stine murder. He is the one who lied to me about his whereabouts that night at our 2006 tete-a-tete.
He is the one who wrote to me TWICE on Monarch sized paper. (Again, I am begging someone to tell me which other suspect ever wrote
even one letter in their lives on Monarch sized paper, so I can end my delusion of thinking that NO OTHER suspect can be proven to have even known what Monarch sized paper was.)
KQ is the one who used to autograph cars in felt tip pen. KQ fits the power-assertive profile of Zodiac.

Mike)

Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

PostPosted: Sat Jun 06, 2015 11:59 pm
by Barry S.
Zamantha wrote:Mike R. is a pretty respected poster and researcher. He reports his findings and did some excellent research, more so then a lot of posters. He doesn't play games & is very straight forward.

What he posts right here, explains why KQ aka Mr. X became an interesting POI.


( quote of Mike R's :
He is the one who lived near the PH crime scene and was spoken to by AP after the Stine murder. He is the one who lied to me about his whereabouts that night at our 2006 tete-a-tete.
He is the one who wrote to me TWICE on Monarch sized paper. (Again, I am begging someone to tell me which other suspect ever wrote
even one letter in their lives on Monarch sized paper, so I can end my delusion of thinking that NO OTHER suspect can be proven to have even known what Monarch sized paper was.)
KQ is the one who used to autograph cars in felt tip pen. KQ fits the power-assertive profile of Zodiac.

Mike)


I don't think anyone disputes the effort Mike has made. We all have to start our journey somewhere.

Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 1:55 am
by ophion1031
Can we all agree that there is a chance that Qvale hid Z at his house that night?

I don't know what the guys sleep habits were like or anything, but it was a little late to be out walking the dog. I think he was scoping things out. Now... who was he hiding?

Could it have been one of his brothers? I'd say that is a pretty long shot, but yes it is possible. Mike R. has done more research on the Qvale family than anyone on this board though, so I think his opinion should definitely be respected.

Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 4:28 am
by themysterymachine
But don't you agree, Mike, that since there is NO physical evidence, at all, tying ANY suspect to Z, that circumstance is all we have? And that there are many suspects who have LARGER circumstantial evidence against them. There must be a reason why one person thinks their guy is Z and its really difficult to state definitively ANYTHING without a solid tie-in. For instance, ALA was supposed to go to LB the day of those murders, got caught with a knife in his car. But none of the physical evidence matched. But that's a hell of a circumstance. And if it was KQ, then who is the partner?

Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:26 am
by mike_r
I still say that when you look at the behaviors that made Z unique, KQ exhibited them all and he is the only suspect who exhibited all of them. In my previous post, I neglected to mention the fact that he showed that he liked front page publicity in the Bay Area newspapers as far back as 1947. I challenge one and all to look at those behaviors and tell me which other suspect exhibited all of them. You can't even find another suspect who wrote on Monarch sized paper, let alone someone who autographed cars! Who autographs cars except KQ...and Z autographed a car that KQ had actually imported.

Richard Walter likes to point out that over 70% of major cases are tried on circumstantial evidence alone. Circumstantial evidence is not the "bastard child" of evidence; it is used to solve cases all the time. And he was willing to state based on my circumstantial case (and his profiling of Z) that KQ was Z. If you don't care what Mr. Walter thinks, read The Murder Room or Google "Vidocq Society" to learn more about him. He works with scores of police departments behind the scenes on tough cold cases. Unlike you and me, that is his day job. And he prides himself on never being wrong!

Mike

Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

PostPosted: Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:49 am
by bmichelle
mike_r

This is off topic-- but under what topic is KQ's handwriting samples? Plus is the letter/letters he sent you included?

Thanks bmichelle

Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:51 am
by ophion1031
mike_r wrote:I still say that when you look at the behaviors that made Z unique, KQ exhibited them all and he is the only suspect who exhibited all of them. In my previous post, I neglected to mention the fact that he showed that he liked front page publicity in the Bay Area newspapers as far back as 1947. I challenge one and all to look at those behaviors and tell me which other suspect exhibited all of them. You can't even find another suspect who wrote on Monarch sized paper, let alone someone who autographed cars! Who autographs cars except KQ...and Z autographed a car that KQ had actually imported.

Richard Walter likes to point out that over 70% of major cases are tried on circumstantial evidence alone. Circumstantial evidence is not the "bastard child" of evidence; it is used to solve cases all the time. And he was willing to state based on my circumstantial case (and his profiling of Z) that KQ was Z. If you don't care what Mr. Walter thinks, read The Murder Room or Google "Vidocq Society" to learn more about him. He works with scores of police departments behind the scenes on tough cold cases. Unlike you and me, that is his day job. And he prides himself on never being wrong!

Mike

I personally don't like KQ as Z, but for the reasons you mentioned, and other reasons, I do think KQ played some sort of role in the entire thing.

Re: 'Zodiac, your partner is in deep real estate'

PostPosted: Mon Jun 08, 2015 3:17 pm
by mike_r
Hi-

It is not for us to like or dislike suspects. It is for us to find the person who was Z. And only Z behaved like Z. If you don't like KQ, who can you name who shared Z's unique behaviors, like the ones I listed? I am waiting for that suspect to come along. I don't think anyone can even name another suspect who they can prove (like I can) ever touched a piece of Monarch sized paper. When I can show that KQ shared those behaviors, you can say you don't like him but who else did what Z did that makes an even better suspect?

There used to be a handwriting thread here that had KQ's Soc Sec application but I don't know if it is still up. He never hand printed anything he sent me.

Mike