Harvey F. Colliver

[Simplicity]

I'm familiar with Floy choate, but harvey being who he is doesn't make spelling mistakes.

Flog choate is him intentionally being derogatory in my opinion, which is important in the context and manner of his writing in that document.

He is criptic in his writing but unintentionally, i don't know the word but it's criptic with out ever appearing to be so.

I don't use the word criptic to relate him to zodiac, it's more "clever" use of wording and spelling at times that is easily missed and provides different interpretations.

That looks like a y to me, not a g. I seem to recall the name Floy Choate being mentioned elsewhere in his files, but can't recall where.

i'll have a better look, i thought it was written "flog" floy choate is the correct spelling as i know it to be.

It's a y by 2 millimetres my bad.

[CuriousCat]

This is something i wish to really highlight and would greatly appreciate input from those who are following along.

It all depends on what he means by "the abstraction" as it mentions becoming the abstraction, whatever that would be.

#4,5,6 is most worrisome as his other writings dose state that he must act or become like "them" to understand them. He is directly talking about abortionist or abortion which has the moral equivalent of cold blooded murder to Harvey.

Yes, and he talks about how if abortion is not murder then shooting someone, or otherwise killing them isn't murder either. He talks a lot about symbols too.

This might be interpreted differently and it's hard to give a easy answer to a complex man.

Yeah, I try to give him the benefit of the doubt, then remember he was a pervert and an asshole who treated women like shit and said terrible things about them.

[CuriousCat]

I'm familiar with Floy choate, but harvey being who he is doesn't make spelling mistakes.

Flog choate is him intentionally being derogatory in my opinion, which is important in the context and manner of his writing in that document.

He is criptic in his writing but unintentionally, i don't know the word but it's criptic with out ever appearing to be so.

I don't use the word criptic to relate him to zodiac, it's more "clever" use of wording and spelling at times that is easily missed and provides different interpretations.

That looks like a y to me, not a g. I seem to recall the name Floy Choate being mentioned elsewhere in his files, but can't recall where.

i'll have a better look, i thought it was written "flog" floy choate is the correct spelling as i know it to be.

It's a y by 2 millimetres my bad.

Meh, I suppose it could be a g.

As Monk says, "I could be wrong, but I don't think so!"

[Simplicity]

it's a y no dispute, curse my eyesight .

but in saying that, i have repeatedly made this mistake thinking he is writing "flog". previous writings that lead me to think that but i don't know, it's not substantial, there might be better examples.

[Simplicity]

This is the post made by seagull that i mentioned earlier. The phone calls trace to the location (town) albeit 10 years earlier.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www.tap ... 5537&amp=1

It should be noted that Cheri his daughter moved to eureka at some point in time but only relentless can elaborate on that.
it's my understanding that cheri joined with native americans in this region, but again relentless can elaborate and correct me.

whether the phone calls relate to cheri in 64~ (cheri with her mother) and if that location is the same as to where cheri moves to as a adult later in her life i do not know but it would have to be 1975~ onwards for cheri to be a adult.

[CuriousCat]

Did you forget the link?

Never mind, I see it now.

[relentlessz]

Here's another one that will be obvious to Zodiac investigators, he talks about cleaning his ink pen. It immediately brought to mind the Zodiac "dripping pen" letter, though it is dated several years after the Zodiac letter. Just odd he talks about cleaning an ink pen and so did Zodiac.

This is a good find for it displays a manner of writing not often seen from harvey. Whilst it is small it shows his ability to switch character. It is a shame that we can only see a "small" piece of harvey's total writing and not the full extent.

I never asked relentlessz but how many boxes of his writtings are missing from your collection would you say?

He wrote everyday. He had an entire wall, roughly 8' x 20', where he kept just his journals he had written. The bookcase was full. I imagine they were his life's work from when he became an adult until he lost his eyesight and began using the tape recorders. The amount of writings would probably almost fill a standard 2 car garage from floor to ceiling if boxed all together. I feel lucky to have saved what I did. Everything was taken to the dump after his daughter got involved.

[Simplicity]

My god , so we are seeing probably only a single page in his book.

[jacob]

I understand the man in question had a maritime identification card, Harvey for his part had a way to obtain documents that did not belong to him.

One thing that harms this is that Colliver is very much irish, but the narrative i'm referring to doesn't rely on the identification being that of Harvey's but rather one obtained by whatever means from his father.

If Harvey could steal ID then this would account for a more "John Smith" sort of name.

Even if he was not Zodiac, he was probably mentally ill enough to falsely take credit.

[Simplicity]

Everything is possible jacob, it's is a interesting notion either way. Harvey is hitting the mark in many ways.