Harvey F. Colliver

[jacob]

This one I found odd as there is no context to it, I can't figure out why he would have it. It's a court case from Georgia involving arson where a guy was charged and the charges later dismissed. Not sure why he would be interested in arson but there is the Zodiac "by fire" thing, so I included this. There are a couple more pages but this is the only one I saved.

He attended Hostings or hastings law school for a short period, interestingly the same school Tarbox studied at years prior.

Tarbox is the lawyer who said the Zodiac was a merchant mariner which i've found interesting as Harvey's father was a union leader or head honcho of the maritime union in SF.

You can find Harvey's discussions about the unions activities circa 74~

How Tarbox described his suspect: (original post http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtop ... 104#p11104)

"The Seaman “had a good head of hair.” If it was receding, it was very minimal. His hair was NOT in a crew cut. The man did NOT wear glasses. The man was shorter than Tarbox (6'2”), wouldn't call him stocky, but the Seaman had good amount of build to him.

Said the Seaman's name was a standard American name. Nothing unusual.
The Seaman was definitely from the USA, not a foreigner.
Tarbox thought the name to be northern european. Not English or Irish, Tarbox is Irish and knows Irish names.

Tarbox guessed his age at younger than himself at the time (Tarbox was 45-47ish) He thinks the Seaman was 40 at the time.

Said he felt the Seaman looked like he was French Mediterranean. (Didn't have a french name)"

I'm not sure if Harvey Colliver is a typical American name, but the physical description matches up with Harvey.

[Simplicity]

This looks to be a draft of a letter he intended to send to a DA. He had the address card of the Napa DA, so I suppose that is who it was intended for. I have no idea if he ever mailed it, it looks to be a rough draft, he would do that, then type it out later so perhaps he did send it. Just an odd letter with no context of what he is talking about but he says something about a cop shooting someone. Two parts. From March of 1969. Looks incomplete but the rest of it might be in the files somewhere.

This is very perculiar for a number of reasons but especially the time of and the context of that time in harvey's life.

A cheap shot but i'll take it, his "2" turns into a Z on page 2.

[Simplicity]

This one I found odd as there is no context to it, I can't figure out why he would have it. It's a court case from Georgia involving arson where a guy was charged and the charges later dismissed. Not sure why he would be interested in arson but there is the Zodiac "by fire" thing, so I included this. There are a couple more pages but this is the only one I saved.

He attended Hostings or hastings law school for a short period, interestingly the same school Tarbox studied at years prior.

Tarbox is the lawyer who said the Zodiac was a merchant mariner which i've found interesting as Harvey's father was a union leader or head honcho of the maritime union in SF.

You can find Harvey's discussions about the unions activities circa 74~

How Tarbox described his suspect: (original post http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtop ... 104#p11104)

"The Seaman “had a good head of hair.” If it was receding, it was very minimal. His hair was NOT in a crew cut. The man did NOT wear glasses. The man was shorter than Tarbox (6'2”), wouldn't call him stocky, but the Seaman had good amount of build to him.

Said the Seaman's name was a standard American name. Nothing unusual.
The Seaman was definitely from the USA, not a foreigner.
Tarbox thought the name to be northern european. Not English or Irish, Tarbox is Irish and knows Irish names.

Tarbox guessed his age at younger than himself at the time (Tarbox was 45-47ish) He thinks the Seaman was 40 at the time.

Said he felt the Seaman looked like he was French Mediterranean. (Didn't have a french name)"

I'm not sure if Harvey Colliver is a typical American name, but the physical description matches up with Harvey.

Love your input Jacob, This is something i had been unable to find. I understand the man in question had a maritime identification card, Harvey for his part had a way to obtain documents that did not belong to him.

One thing that harms this is that Colliver is very much irish, but the narrative i'm referring to doesn't rely on the identification being that of Harvey's but rather one obtained by whatever means from his father.

Edited, misread part of your response.

[Simplicity]

Orbituary of harvey's father, courtesy of Relentlessz.

I need to review some of the dates i gave prior.

[Simplicity]

Here's another one that will be obvious to Zodiac investigators, he talks about cleaning his ink pen. It immediately brought to mind the Zodiac "dripping pen" letter, though it is dated several years after the Zodiac letter. Just odd he talks about cleaning an ink pen and so did Zodiac.

This is a good find for it displays a manner of writing not often seen from harvey. Whilst it is small it shows his ability to switch character. It is a shame that we can only see a "small" piece of harvey's total writing and not the full extent.

I never asked relentlessz but how many boxes of his writtings are missing from your collection would you say?

[Simplicity]

Here's another one where he mentions Tracy, Vallejo and Benicia and has a list of women's names. I have no idea of the context, as you can see it seems out of place with the rest of the note but he did a lot of that, like he would be writing about something then his train of thought suddenly changed to something else. There seems to be at least a small connection to Zodiac here with the towns mentioned. He mentions those towns a lot, along with calling women there "whores". I have no idea who these women are other than one being his ex-wife.

I wish i could elaborate more but take note of what harvey says when he changes the color of his pen on the same page.

Betty Wiggens? is not a name he mentions anywhere else to my knowledge.

Nadine deal? and there is a "2" that could be mistaken for a Z.

Look closesy at flog? choate, odd writing, underscored.

Harvey is cryptic even in plain text.

[Simplicity]

This is something i wish to really highlight and would greatly appreciate input from those who are following along.

It's hard to explain context of which documents belong but they all sort of intertwine.

#4,5,6 is most worrisome as his other writings dose state that he must act or become like "them" to understand them. He is directly talking about abortionist or abortion which has the moral equivalent of cold blooded murder to Harvey.

This might be interpreted differently and it's hard to give a easy answer to a complex man.

[Simplicity]

Here's another strange one where Vallejo is mentioned. He talks about a "whore" in Vallejo and her telephone conversation with her "boyfriend". I can't make out that one word, but I believe he calls her a "madame" meaning prostitute, he rants a lot about prostitutes and rape. It's dated 1975 but could relate to some earlier incident.

How harvey intertwined his thoughts and focus is a mystery.

i have No idea what "V" is?

look at this picture and the one above, particularly #4, #5 and #6. I don't know or believe there is a connection between these two documents perse but it's part of a general theme and displays something left To ones own interpretations.

[Simplicity]

I'm finding it very difficult to post images here the size needed to read them. Hopefully this works.

Here's a note Harvey wrote about Mexico and escaping. We all know about Zodiac mentioning Mexico at LB. No date on this one but I found it very interesting.

Any use of ! by harvey is rare and emphasis on what he is saying should and is correctly being placed on it. He was a Grammar Nazi.

my guess of authorship is circa 71-76, but does match the downbeat narrative i see between 66-69~ so basically i don't know

[CuriousCat]

Lompoc we see harvey refer to it as a hicks town, his wife at the time tried to apply for a job there but i feel like harvey was trying to keep his distance from her and privacy in tact, which has more to do with his personality than anything conclusively mischievous.

My interest in Lompoc is because Lompoc High is where Robert Domingo and Linda Edwards went to high school. They were murdered on nearby beach in 1963. If you are not very familiar with that case, it is almost identical to the Zodiac Lake Berryessa attack and many of us are convinced it was an early Zodiac murder. Harvey was working at Hancock college in Lompoc in 1963.

So we have established he was in Lompoc when the Domingo/Edwards murders occurred and was in the Bay area when the other attacks occurred and also that he is familiar with Napa, Vallejo and Benecia, the sites of three other attacks, as well as being very familiar with San Francisco itself.

One of the main requirements of establishing the basis of someone as a Zodiac suspect is showing they were in the areas of the attacks when they happened. This establishes that aspect. I have seen no evidence he was ever in Riverside however, nor Sacramento. This doesn't make Harvey the Zodiac. It does establish a basic requirement though.