Harvey F. Colliver

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Re: Harvey F. Colliver

Postby CuriousCat » Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:39 am

Simplicity wrote:
And don't worry, what i found is that when you go to follow up one thing you unintentionally will see another thing. It takes time and it's hard very hard to judge where effort should be directed especially with all the side tracks.


I ran across quite a bit that had been scanned in upside down. I didn't feel like standing on my head to read it so skipped over it.
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Re: Harvey F. Colliver

Postby Simplicity » Sun Mar 03, 2019 12:48 am

CuriousCat wrote:
Simplicity wrote:
And don't worry, what i found is that when you go to follow up one thing you unintentionally will see another thing. It takes time and it's hard very hard to judge where effort should be directed especially with all the side tracks.


I ran across quite a bit that had been scanned in upside down. I didn't feel like standing on my head to read it so skipped over it.


haha yep that will happen, i have neglected some pages too, the ones written in cursive :?
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Re: Harvey F. Colliver

Postby StitchMallone » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:02 am

relentlessz wrote:
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CuriousCat wrote:He does the "candy cane f" thing too.
There is things to like in his writing compared to Zodiac. My advice is a professional needs to compare Harvey's writing to Zodiac. Harvey sure left enough samples to be compared lol.


Can you help with money for gas? Hahaha jk
Haha and was tempted to say that will cost more then gas money.
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Re: Harvey F. Colliver

Postby Simplicity » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:22 am

The hardest question which offers the easiest path is how to get law enforcement involved with us?

Relentlessz, myself, curiouscat and others are seeing something though we might agree to disagree in regards to what exactly what.

There are things that only Law enforcement can see, with previous investigations, finding of what vehicles were owned by harvey, his rap sheet, maybe his finger prints might be of use? i could go on and on.
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Re: Harvey F. Colliver

Postby StitchMallone » Sun Mar 03, 2019 1:56 am

Simplicity wrote:The hardest question which offers the easiest path is how to get law enforcement involved with us?

Relentlessz, myself, curiouscat and others are seeing something though we might agree to disagree in regards to what exactly what.

There are things that only Law enforcement can see, with previous investigations, finding of what vehicles were owned by harvey, his rap sheet, maybe his finger prints might be of use? i could go on and on.
Like I was saying, if you think he could be Zodiac get professionals to check out his handwriting compared to Zodiac. If they consider them one in the same then LE I imagine will be way more attentive to listen to you. If not thinking he is Zodiac but a bad man. Then I have no advice for that.
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Re: Harvey F. Colliver

Postby Simplicity » Sun Mar 03, 2019 2:20 am

That is a fair point stitch, does look like a plausible avenue, especially with the examples provided by curious.
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Re: Harvey F. Colliver

Postby CuriousCat » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:14 am

Simplicity wrote:The hardest question which offers the easiest path is how to get law enforcement involved with us?

Relentlessz, myself, curiouscat and others are seeing something though we might agree to disagree in regards to what exactly what.

There are things that only Law enforcement can see, with previous investigations, finding of what vehicles were owned by harvey, his rap sheet, maybe his finger prints might be of use? i could go on and on.


Best bet would be to get a retired LEO interested. They could use their insider ties to check his record to see if he had ever been charged with anything or looked at in the investigation of some crime. I can't help but think some of them would view him as suspicious if they viewed some of these things, however suspicious doesn't mean he did anything.

We still have those film rolls with the Zodiac like symbol on them, it will be interesting to see what's on them. I have a feeling it's just his daughter when she was very young but you never know.

Another thing I noticed that I found curious, his girlfriend Esther took a sewing machine that he wanted back claiming it belonged to him. I seem to recall seeing a receipt for it and it was a very expensive one, probably commercial grade. I think he just wanted it back out of spite, but it is interesting that he had access to a sewing machine.
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Re: Harvey F. Colliver

Postby CuriousCat » Sun Mar 03, 2019 11:18 am

StitchMallone wrote:
Simplicity wrote: If not thinking he is Zodiac but a bad man. Then I have no advice for that.


There's really just an outside chance he could have been Zodiac and not much of one in my mind, but he seemed obsessed with rape and prostitutes. He might at least be worth looking into from that angle.
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Re: Harvey F. Colliver

Postby Simplicity » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:53 pm

CuriousCat wrote:Not sure the context on this one but it mention Lompoc, where he lived in the early '60's. Lompoc is mentioned several times in his files without much context.

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Lompoc we see harvey refer to it as a hicks town, his wife at the time tried to apply for a job there but i feel like harvey was trying to keep his distance from her and privacy in tact, which has more to do with his personality than anything conclusively mischievous.
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Re: Harvey F. Colliver

Postby Simplicity » Mon Mar 04, 2019 9:55 pm

CuriousCat wrote:This one I found odd as there is no context to it, I can't figure out why he would have it. It's a court case from Georgia involving arson where a guy was charged and the charges later dismissed. Not sure why he would be interested in arson but there is the Zodiac "by fire" thing, so I included this. There are a couple more pages but this is the only one I saved.

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He attended Hostings or hastings law school for a short period, interestingly the same school Tarbox studied at years prior.

Tarbox is the lawyer who said the Zodiac was a merchant mariner which i've found interesting as Harvey's father was a union leader or head honcho of the maritime union in SF.

You can find Harvey's discussions about the unions activities circa 74~ (or earlier not relevant enough to warrant fact checking)
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