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Re: Zodiac in Houston TX area?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:34 am
by entropy
Out of curiosity, does the name "Tom Humble" on the return address have any significance to this case i.e. is there a real person by that name that has any remote connection? I didn't read anything to indicate that it did. FWIW, there is a Humble, TX just to the north of Houston.

Re: Zodiac in Houston TX area?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 9:56 am
by morf13
entropy wrote:Out of curiosity, does the name "Tom Humble" on the return address have any significance to this case i.e. is there a real person by that name that has any remote connection? I didn't read anything to indicate that it did. FWIW, there is a Humble, TX just to the north of Houston.


Also,there are a ton of refineries there, Humble Oil too

Re: Zodiac in Houston TX area?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:53 am
by AK Wilks
When was the corvette concepts letter sent?

Re: Zodiac in Houston TX area?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 11:39 am
by morf13
AK Wilks wrote:When was the corvette concepts letter sent?


Aprox, 12/20/05. The 'Corvette' letter & Laura Lynn Miller letter are one and the same, on both sides of same letter. One side written, one side magazine cutouts.

How many cases in which the Victim's Father got a letter from someone who was possibly her killer? Not many, Cheri Jo Bates

How many cases in which a person mailed in a cutout/paste up letter, that could be turned either end up,and a message read from either topor bottom? Besides this one letter, the only others I have seen are the Lass case letters

Add those two things together, that's hard to dismiss, the fact is, these two things are NOT common,yet we see see both traits in the Bates case, Lass case, and a combination of these two things in this case.

Re: Zodiac in Houston TX area?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:42 pm
by entropy
morf13 wrote:
AK Wilks wrote:When was the corvette concepts letter sent?


Aprox, 12/20/05. The 'Corvette' letter & Laura Lynn Miller letter are one and the same, on both sides of same letter. One side written, one side magazine cutouts.



Well, that shoots down my theory since Dennis Rader was arrested in February, 2005. I do wonder if the "Corvette letter" writer (whether he was involved or not) may have borrowed some of BTK's terminology and M.O. I think it's very likely actually.

Dennis Rader plead guilty and was sentenced in August, 2005. Many of the details about his activities and letters (including victims as "projects" and the cereal box communication) came out during his courtroom statements and shortly after his sentencing. This certainly would have been front page news in the Houston area at that time.

Re: Zodiac in Houston TX area?

PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2014 7:15 pm
by Quagmire
A certain Edward Wayne Edwards moved to Houston, Texas for a while in the 70s. Edwards also moved to Atlanta, befriended a police official and actually moved into his house - not sure if this was the same time that the Atlanta letters to the police started turning up?

Re: Zodiac in Houston TX area?

PostPosted: Sat Feb 08, 2014 1:12 am
by morf13
Quagmire wrote:A certain Edward Wayne Edwards moved to Houston, Texas for a while in the 70s. Edwards also moved to Atlanta, befriended a police official and actually moved into his house - not sure if this was the same time that the Atlanta letters to the police started turning up?


You know Quagmire, I just read today as a matter of fact, about Edwards living for a spell in Houston

Re: Zodiac in Houston TX area?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 12:24 pm
by sandy betts
Didn't we have some alleged Zodiac correspondence in Calif. in 1990 ? The Eureka Letter in Dec , Vallejo Celebrity card in Sept.
Letters / notes claiming to have killed the12 girls in Pittsburg Ca, during the late 80's through most to the 90's.

I am with Trav and think the TX letters are a copy cat. And not a very good one at that.

Re: Zodiac in Houston TX area?

PostPosted: Mon Jun 22, 2015 1:52 pm
by morf13
sandy betts wrote:Didn't we have some alleged Zodiac correspondence in Calif. in 1990 ? The Eureka Letter in Dec , Vallejo Celebrity card in Sept.
Letters / notes claiming to have killed the12 girls in Pittsburg Ca, during the late 80's through most to the 90's.

I am with Trav and think the TX letters are a copy cat. And not a very good one at that.


I think they could be a copycat too. I just wonder why the person wouldn't just come right out and call himself Zodiac to really be a copycat. It was just a subtle clue in the letter construction that lines up with possible Z letters. But don't forget, this letter is most like the Donna Lass letters. A Suspect in her case was Jonasson. Jonasson lived in League City where this letter is from. I find that pretty interesting.

Re: Zodiac in Houston TX area?

PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2016 2:06 am
by the ghost of zodiac
The "traced" envelope and wording is not what Tim Miller received in the mail. Someone else created this and injected it into the investigation.
Also in 2005 the original letter and envelope was turned over to the League City Police Dept. It is now MISSING.

I have studied the letter and envelope and I believe is is not put together from magazine cutouts. I believe the words were printed using a word program that easily changes fonts and letter sizes. The author then printed the words on a letter size paper and cut them out for pasting.. Actually this would be much easier and quicker than searching thru piles of magazines because of the different individual word sizes and bold type needed.