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Fair enough!

This is what smithy, myself and others were discussing.

AK Wilks wrote:Thanks Sandy, Morf, Seagull and Coffee Time. Always enjoy getting new information and thoughts on these unsolved cases.

This thread discusses the Robison murders in a general sense, for my take on why TK in particular is a good suspect in this and other unsolved Midwest murders, see viewtopic.php?f=102&t=993

Sandy mentioned that the "R" in the Roebert papers (ostensibly done by Richard Robison but IMO perhaps done by the killer of the Robison family) might be similar to the "R" on the letter sent in the Bates case (which may have been done by Pat Hautz or some other student, or possibly the killer). You can compare it that "R" and also the note left on the door of the Robison cabin, almost certainly done by the killer.

I obtained the Michigan State Police file on the Robison family murders, which happened on 6/25/68 in Blisswood, Emmett County, Michigan, near the town of Good Hart.

It is a rather large police file. It is 59.1 MB, 437 pages. It is in the form of a PDF. Thanks to Doranchak, it is now accessible to anyone who wants to do research. It is available here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-plREV ... puKiP/view

It is of interest to me and some other researchers of the Zodiac case because like the Zodiac at LHR 12/20/68 (and the killer at SB 6/4/63), the shooter used Winchester .22 Super X ammo, fired from a gun six grooves and lands with a right twist, with police reports identifying a (Sears) J.C. Higgins as the weapon most consistent with the rifling pattern on the bullets and the weapon most likely to have been used.

It is also of interest because someone with inside knowledge of the crime scene wrote to the local paper, asking his name to be put in the paper if police wanted more info, and his name was ZODIUS. The words ZODIUS and ZODIAC share the first four letters in common, both derive from the Latin word ZODIACUS and both mean essentially the same thing, a collection of the twelve animals/symbols representing astrological signs. Zodius struck on 6/25/68, six months before Zodiac, and one year before Zodiac announced himself to the world.

Both Zodius and Zodiac used math symbols - Zodius used triangles, Zodiac the unit circle, a circle with a plus sign over it. Both had messages with the letters R,O,E,B,E,R,T in them, and both emphasized the letter sequence EBE.

Like Zodiac, Zodius wrote to a newspaper, giving crime scene knowledge only the killer could know, demanded his cryptic message and name appear in the paper and targeted a male - female couple - Zodiac teens and young adults on dates, Zodius a husband and wife with kids present. Like the killer at possible Zodiac crime of Santa Barbara 6/4/63, Zodius posed his victims by stacking bodies atop one another and exposing the female. Former FBI agent and serial killer profiler John Douglas cites a study which shows less than 1% of all homicides involve posing of bodies.

Like Domingos and Edwards were covered by a blanket, Mrs. Robison was covered by a blanket. Zodiac shot through a window (car), and Zodius shot through a window (house).

Zodius called from San Francisco, and people who heard his voice described it as robotic & monotone, similar to how the voice of Zodiac was described.

There are other similarities, and also differences...

And aside from the possible Zodiac connection, it is a tragic case, and deserves to be solved. You can learn more about it starting on Page 1 of this thread. I think that the only major named Zodiac suspect with ties to both the Midwest in general and Michigan specifically is Ted Kaczynski. You can read about evidence linking him to the Robison murders and other Midwest murders here: viewtopic.php?f=102&t=993

If you find any interesting pages in the file, please note the page numbers here and describe what you found. If possible, post a copy of the page or a screen capture of it.

To start, here is the evidence about the ballistics in the Robison family murders by Zodius matching Zodiac:


Michigan State Police ballistics report on Zodius Robison family murders of 6/25/68, noting weapon was .22 with six lands and grooves, right twist, notably consistent with a (Sears) J.C. Higgins pistol.



Ballistics report on Zodiac Jensen/Faraday murder of 12/20/68 at Lake Herman Road, noting weapon was a .22 with six lands and grooves, right twist, most consistent with a (Sears) J.C. Higgins pistol.

Ammo used in both cases was Winchester .22 Super X.

Eventually I will read every page of the 437 page file. But to start with getting an initial rough, preliminary assessment, if anyone is interested in spending some time on this, let me know. I am starting with pages 1 through 100. If someone is interested in working on this seriously, at least for a few hours even, post here or PM me and say you are taking on pages 101 through 150. If you find interesting things, pro or con for a Zodiac connection, pro or con for any suspect, post them here, with screen captures if possible.

I sort of leafed through the file and found some interesting things already.

Books and articles said that those who talked to the mysterious Mr. Roebert from San Francisco (who I and others think is also likely Zodius, and the killer) reported he talked in a robotic, monotone voice, which matches descriptions of Zodiac's voice. I found confirmation of these reports in the police file.



Confirmation police thought the crime the work of a psychopath, that the family was waiting for Mr. Roebert, and that police considered Roebert and his organization Superior Table as suspects in the case.



Police got an anonymous letter from a tipster. Apparently it just wasted their time and misdirected them. It was sent from Maywood, Illinois, a city minutes away from the Kaczynski family home in Lombard, and follows the Kaczynski signature of a tree - wood reference.

Downloaded. Working on 101-150 for now.

TheMist wrote:Downloaded. Working on 101-150 for now.

Great. Thanks.

In particular I am interested in any and all mentions of Zodius, Roebert and crime scene details

Mr. Robinson was trying to start a "computer services warehouse and cultural centre" near an airport. He was negotiating with a Mr. Jeffers who was already in that business to bring in up to 100 million in investment. It is clear from the reports (p101-105) that Jeffers does not trust Robinson and vice-versa. Jeffers suspects Robinson of wanting to steal his business with a fraudulent investment.

There is a Mullerhagen or Mullenhagen who was hired by Robinson in January 68 and seems to be the intermediary with the financial backer(s). The early reports suggest that the backer is in St-Louis.

Page 121 is a letter from Michigan State Police to the Monterey, California PD, asking for information on the potential backer, a Mr. Roebert, and five others identified on an attached memo. Unfortunately, the attached memo seems to be missing from the file. One of Robinson's former employees, a Mr. Pohl is now apparently in Monterey working for KSVW-TV, and is said to have information on Mr. Roebert.

The letter specifies that "Mr. Roebert was to call for Mr. Robinson and family by private jet on the day of the murder".

Thoughts: Mr. Robinson was involved in some very shady dealings with some very shady people. Or, he was the victim of a fairly long con that culminated in an ambush killing of the whole family at their cottage. A hundred million seems like a ridiculously large amount for 1968, and the private jet trip is a good lure to get everyone together in one place. More to come.

Monterey Police sent the inquiry to Salinas PD where Pohl was a resident. Incidentally, Pohl reports being in that area of California in 63-64, back to Michigan in 65, and then to Salinas again starting in early 68.

Pohl is interviewed (P. 130) about Roebert and the names of backers from a group apparently calling themselves "The Superior Table". He denies any knowledge of Roebert. The other names are (all apparently last names): Fisher, Joseph, Richard, Thomas, Peters, Martin. Fisher may be the one that doesn't appear on the Superior Table, but is identified by Pohl as possibly a large stockholder and member of the board of Ford Motor Company.

Pohl associates both Richard and Thomas with WJR radio in Detroit. He is less sure about the others.

He says he doesn't know anyone with a private jet. However, for some reason, he volunteers that he knows many people in the Detroit Mafia, but that he doesn't know that any of them had any business dealings with Robinson.

Pohl is the second source to strongly hint that Robinson is active in a local gay underground and that part of his publishing activities and warehouse business plan may be part of this.

Here is something interesting on p. 208. A few days before the murders, in the same area, the son of some neighbours was killed in a motorcycle accident. The young man's grand-mother reports that a rope was strung across the road. TK wrote about ambushing and killing motorcyclists around his cabin. I remember seeing more details on the motorcycle death earlier in the file (minus the rope). I will look back.

p. 211-212

RE Peters from the Superior Table list: The Pastor of the church the Robinsons attended was Harvey Peters, with a brother named Edmund, who is considering going to work for Robinson. Pastor describes Robinson as "a brilliant and determined individual; also he had a split personality and he always wanted to be a top man".

The name Peters was found on a note in Robinson's wallet.