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Wow, what a wealth of incredible information. One minute, Seagull, you're on Zodiackiller.com where the name Gaul or Sharp cannot be found ANYWHERE on your site. (remember my "righteous indignation" just 5 days ago?) Nor could the original AUTHENTIC police report be found ANYWHERE on the internet! Except here on this site, but then only 4 pages were legible.

Now all of sudden this bonanza of data, these "Progress Reports", come from nowhere, obvious forgeries in an attempt to "clear" Bruce Davis as suspect.

Good, detailed fakes just like the old GO use to do back in the day. Remember, Grace Marie & Bruce & Jerry McDonald & Doug Rambo? Your cover has been blown Seagull. You may be fooling these people who don't know Scientology, but your not fooling me. BTW, have you ever seen the actual FBI docs from the Blue Bunker in 1977? I have a complete set of the nearly 45,000 docs and your Progress Reports don't seem to jive with the activities, "Guardian Programs" if you will, being conducted by you ,Terry, Mo, Duke, Dick, Greg, Jane, Bruce (it's you isn't it Ullman?), Bruce Raymond, Cindy, etc., back before they all went to prison.

Remember when Terry got that nurse in England pregnant? Remember when Terry blew?

You see, the problem with your Progress Reports is not only do they conflict with a number of Weekly Intell Reports, Compliance Reports, Outstanding Orders, and Time Tracks, but EVERY SINGLE witness is a Scientologist! Trained to lie per TR-L policy, train to pass lie-detector tests, trained to suppress that most dangerous enemy to Scientology: the Truth.

The GO - still vetting, culling, dead-agenting, and blowing after all these years. Terry Milner, scumbag druggie, Gordon Mustain, lying freeloader, Budlong, Artie Maren, Meisner, Weigand, Willardson - your witness list reads like a Defendants' List from the Nuremberg Trial Calendar docket from 1946.

You must have been working on these "Progress Reports" nonstop from the moment I posted that question on Tom Voigt's website regarding Scientology treatening the life of Cecelia Shepard the day before she was murdered. And you no doubt have begun debunking that crucial fact somewhere on the Internet where nobody will have a clue what you're up to and who you're working for. It explains a lot about what happened to Tom Voigt over the last two years. Was it blackmail, bribery, theft, child molestation frame-up, or did Tom just decide to go on org lines himself?

Henning in response to your post at zodiackiller.com I posted exactly what I posted here today before I posted it here. They are not forgeries, I had posted snippets of the reports long ago at this forums previous website. Some of what I posted was brought here from the old forum and is further up in the thread.

Furthermore if you visit Aes-Nihil's website you, too, can purchase the police report. This was among the stuff that Aes-Nihil bought from Bill Nelson when he was getting out of the Manson and Zodiac investigations. Aes-Nihil has had this stuff for sale for a very long time.

Sorry the police reports do not support whatever you think might have happened, it is what it is. Oh, and you knew perfectly well what the victims names were when you posted at Tom's, you had been posting about them at truthontatelabianca.com for a few days prior to your posting there.

Henning, Today's your 1st day here, don't make it your last. Seagull has forgotten more about these cases then you will ever know. She has done nothing but help research and investigation in these cases, and is honest. To come here questioning her honesty & integrity, and accuse her of faking this material is rediculous, and will NOT be tolerated. Nor will using this forum to trash Tom Voigt or anybody else. This is your one and only warning

zk.com is not seagull's site.

Is this you (Henning Heldt) or do you just use his name?

Seagull wrote:Henning in response to your post at zodiackiller.com I posted exactly what I posted here today before I posted it here. They are not forgeries, I had posted snippets of the reports long ago at this forums previous website. Some of what I posted was brought here from the old forum and is further up in the thread.

Furthermore if you visit Aes-Nihil's website you, too, can purchase the police report. This was among the stuff that Aes-Nihil bought from Bill Nelson when he was getting out of the Manson and Zodiac investigations. Aes-Nihil has had this stuff for sale for a very long time.

Sorry the police reports do not support whatever you think might have happened, it is what it is. Oh, and you knew perfectly well what the victims names were when you posted at Tom's, you had been posting about them at truthontatelabianca.com for a few days prior to your posting there.

I'm sorry Seagull, I didn't mean to suggest that YOU forged them or even altered them; it's much more likely that Terry Milner forged and altered and planted them way back immediately after the murders, back when his detective agency was breaking every law in the state and he was not only running drugs, hookers, guns, & people, he was also finding time to frame a major squirrel - the Process Church.

I believe Nelson departed with the non-Police Report data cause he knew they were bogus. Maybe 'forgery' isn't the right word - how about 'phony' or 'fake' or 'false entheta', or one big lie; the authenticity of the documents isn't nearly as important as the authenticity of the witnesses. And I assure you, based on my personal relationships with half the people on that witness list, every thing that Ms. Budlong, Artie Maren, Gordon Mustain, Ms. Fisher, Mr. Ferguson, John Harris, Howe, Wallace, Lambert, DiMauro and Milner says, is a blatant lie that they were pre-programmed to say in order to achieve some ulterior motive unknown at the time.

Each one of those "witnesses" I just named WAS ALREADY a convicted felon, and about 6 of them would go on to be convicted later on in life of different crimes. Some of the witnesses I never heard of, a couple I heard of but didn't know them personally, but every one of them was a Scientologist and so nothing they say can be believed.

And the POLICE Reports DO support what I think happened, it's these after-the-fact PROGRESS Reports that don't support the facts. If you're not a Scientologist, then you obviously would have no idea of their misinformation. And if you are a Scientologist then you are already pre-programmed to suppress the truth and spread disinformation.

Either way, it is solid research skills and excellent work. I will check out Aes-Nihil but I suspect the valuable data was destroyed long ago as soon as Nelson got too close. Aes-Nihil did not show up when I googled for the Gaul-Sharp reports, but you got to suspect any criminal document when somebody is making a profit on it. There is too much of a conflict of interest and the temptation to spice it up to increase sales profits is too much to resist for many people.

Are you for hire? If so, I would pay you good money if you could get a list of the nine girls that Bruce Davis dated when he lived at Thetan Manor, "seven of which were still in the country". If anyone could get that info it's you Seagull, and I would make it well worth your while. Same thing for that Scientology Membership List that your Progress Reports indicate: "Gordon Mustain gave Scientology Membership List to Police." I would pay you handsomely for either of those lists. Please let me know.

Why don't you contact Aes-Nihil? The Gaul/Sharp report is within the Zodiac File he has at his site. It's the third from the bottom item for sale at this link.

http://www.aes-nihil.com/criminals.html

He also has an extensive list of Manson related things for sale. The Nelson material is sprinkled throughout the lists of stuff.

http://www.aes-nihil.com/manson.html

Contact info is at the bottom of each page.

morf13 wrote:Henning, Today's your 1st day here, don't make it your last. Seagull has forgotten more about these cases then you will ever know. She has done nothing but help research and investigation in these cases, and is honest. To come here questioning her honesty & integrity, and accuse her of faking this material is rediculous, and will NOT be tolerated. Nor will using this forum to trash Tom Voigt or anybody else. This is your one and only warning

Morf, I'm not questioning her honesty and integrity - but the honesty and integrity of her witnesses are non-existent. If you don't believe me, that is your choice. Frankly, I had you figured as a more objective, reasonable, open-minded individual. Whether she has helped or hindered the research and investigation into this case remains to be seen - THE CASE IS STILL UNSOLVED. If it remains unsolved to our dying day, then she hasn't helped anybody but Scientology.

If someone uploaded an affidavit signed under penalty of perjury by two witnesses who swore they saw you molest and rape a young girl, and the two witnesses were Pinocchio and the Tooth Fairy, wouldn't you notice something wrong with that picture and say something? I didn't trash Tom Voigt, but this is what explodes every time the investigation heads in the direction of Scientology. It always ends up we all start attacking each other. If you're all Scientologists, then just tell me now and I will stop wasting my time and yours. If you're not all Scientologists then we can solve this thing once and for all, I'm sure of it.

Personally, I think it was Bruce Davis along with Arther Leigh Allen AND Gykowski AND Lawrence Kane. Why couldn't it be. If Kane and Allen and Gyke could be tied to Scientology, then we would solve the case. So, Ill ask here too: HAS ANYBODY INVESTIGATED THE SCIENTOLOGY DEATH THREAT to Cecelia Shepard? Why would Scientology want her dead? What was her connection to Scientology and Cheri Jo Bates? Had the two of them met at a Scientology meeting in Riverside, where they also met Arthur Leigh Allen and Bruce Davis?

Seagull wrote:Some of the above stuff did not transfer over well from the old site. Here are the first and second progress reports on the case.

Seagull, on the first page of Doreen Gaul Property Report, it states "Date & Time this Report: 11-14-69 1530" (5 lines down far left)

My question is, how can that be so when that is ONE WEEK BEFORE the date of the murders? (11-21-69)

Then on page 2 of that same Property Report the date & time are "11-26-69 1230".

And on page 1 "Date & Time Property taken into police custody: 11-26-69 0130" does NOT match the "11-22-69 0130" a few lines below like it should.

And this is on a crucial document involving the "Mexican or Indian hair"! I suspect the hair is more probably German or Danish, because "something smells rotten in Denmark".

Morf, before you censor me from your site, I'm not questioning Seagull's honesty & integrity at all, but I would be derelict in my duties if I didn't say anything about such critical errors.

One thing missed here, discussion of whether Gaul & Sharp could actually be Zodiac victims, or if at the very least, the zodiac letter found in her room was actuallt from Zeven if he didnt kill her.

"TIME IS SHORT," which is similar to something uttered by Z at Lake Berryessa". Thats an odd statement, yet Z used it at Lake B and we see it here in this letter. If somebody was joking with Gaul or trying to scare her, would they know enough details about the Berryessa attack to know Z used the phrase "time is short"?

Could this really be a z letter?

A couple other odd and creepy things- supposedly, Doreen Gaul's parents lived in Albany NY, within site(supposedly a couple hundred yards)from the Albany Medical ctr, then, low and behold, we get a questioned Zodiac letter/cipher with a threat on that very medical ctr:
viewtopic.php?f=77&t=60

Just seems like a HUGE coincidence, anybody else think so?

The med ctr was located at 47 New Scotland Ave albany NY,I think thats the address, what was Doreen's family's address?

I read the name RUSSELL HANDY in the report,the RH initials caught my eye,anybody know who this guy is? In the 1940 census, there is this guy(his dad?)
NAME: Russell G Handy
BIRTH: abt 1907 - California
RESIDENCE: 1935 - Los Angeles, California
RESIDENCE: Hemet, Riverside, California

Also, I wonder if the RUSSELL HANDY in the report is actually, this one:
NAME: Gary Russell Handy
BIRTH: 29 Jul 1943 - San Diego, California