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Soze, interesting stuff. Z asked Stine to go to Wash & Maple, we know from the logbook. Then, for some unknown reason, he makes him go to Wash & Cherry. Later, when he refers to the attack in his letter, he again mentions Wash & Maple, NOT Cherry. He def wanted to call attention to that spot.

By the way, not sure if I missed it, but what was the thing you found leading to Mason & Geary, while researching Bates?

Morf,

I never said what it was. So no, , you didnt miss it.

With all due respect, taking into consideration that I am preparing something on Cheri, it would be best to wait in answering that question.

Hope you understand.

Soze

I wonder if Z saw a movie that night that inspired him to commit a murder. If he was in the front seat of the cab, is it possible that there was someone in the backseat? An accomplice.

ophion1031 wrote:I wonder if Z saw a movie that night that inspired him to commit a murder. If he was in the front seat of the cab, is it possible that there was someone in the backseat? An accomplice.

Anything is possible, I guess. I once thought about the possibility of there being more than one passenger in that cab: Stine did drop someone off at Maple/Wash. Then he proceeded, perhaps at gunpoint, to Cherry/Wash. But which scenario would make such a chain of events plausible - well, I've no idea. It was just a random thought at the time.

Anyway, the witnesses across the street would seemingly rule out a second passenger in the cab at the crime scene - so if anyone did ride along, he or she would have been dropped off at some point before they reached Cherry/Wash. And if that is indeed the case, what location more likely than Maple/Wash., the logged destination of the ride.

Those new (or new to me) articles Seagull posted last spring mention something confusing. According to Keith Power's article of 17 Oct, Stine's waybill indicated he picked up his last fare at Mason and Geary and the stated destination was Washington and Maple. That would explain Zodiac's wrong address in his letter. But an article by Jim Wood several days later states that SFPD thought he picked up his last fare on Mason in front of the Fairmount Hotel four blocks north of Geary and that SFPD detectives were practically swarming that area. The bulletin with the sketch mentions Washington and Laurel, but not Washington and Maple.

What the heck? Didn't SFPD have access to Stine's waybill? How else did Power get his information about it? Or was Jim Wood just a terrible reporter?

Has anyone seen photos of the waybill? There are lots of photos of the shirt, the shirt pieces, the gloves, the street guide, poor Paul himself, but I've never seen a photo of the waybill. Has anyone else?

I've seen several pictures of his fare book - but none of the actual page where it says "Wash. and Maple". There is no doubt the cops had access to it, though - it was on the floor of the cab, "next to a pool of blood" as it says in one of the reports (if memory serves).

Norse:

If you've seen photos of the waybill and reports that describe it, that puts you ahead of Tom Voigt and Mike Rodelli and everybody else. There are crime scene photos of Stine's STREET GUIDE lying in the gutter next to the cab, but that's not the waybill or whatever you call it that he would have turned into the cab company with the money he collected.

But my question was, if Keith Power saw it, or was told about it by someone in SFPD, then why were SFPD swarming over Nob Hill? And why does their bulletin say Washington and Laurel instead of Washington and Maple?

BillRobison wrote:Norse:

If you've seen photos of the waybill and reports that describe it, that puts you ahead of Tom Voigt and Mike Rodelli and everybody else. There are crime scene photos of Stine's STREET GUIDE lying in the gutter next to the cab, but that's not the waybill or whatever you call it that he would have turned into the cab company with the money he collected.

But my question was, if Keith Power saw it, or was told about it by someone in SFPD, then why were SFPD swarming over Nob Hill? And why does their bulletin say Washington and Laurel instead of Washington and Maple?

Ah, sorry - I've seen it described as his "fare book", but you're right: the picture(s) I have in mind appears to be of his street guide.



I've always taken it as gospel that Stine was headed to Maple/Wash. and that the cops knew this for sure because they retrieved his fare book or waybill or whatever you want to call it - his log, in short, where the destination (Wash./Cherry) was recorded.

Norse:

Maybe Keith Power was right, but what confuses me is, according to Wood, SFPD didn't know anything about Mason and Geary, even several days later.

Another weird thing is, Graysmith never mentioned Power or his verification of Zodiac's letter in "Zodiac." Did Power just make it up? Why? Just to make Zodiac more believable? Why would he do that? Or did he somehow get the waybill before police did?