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Using google maps the other day, I followed West Pacific Avenue around to a parking area called 'Inspiration Point'. Could this be where Zodiac's car was parked? Or, did he have a car parked on West Pacific Avenue and simply drive around the corner and park up at Inspiration Point, a place that a parked car would not be suspicious and overlooks the entire Presidio?

Below, using Google Earth, I have marked the route to Inspiration Point, as well as Julius Kahn area. The arrows show the route via road. But there is a path, called Ecology Trail, that you can take to get there on foot from W. Pacific Avenue.



(Ps. I didn't draw the odd white outline around the house next to Maple St. That is odd and don't know why its there.)

I have a 1970 San Francisco street map. Inspiration Point is not on the map, Julius Kahn Playground is on the map.

That's Howard's house, that one with a line around.

Consider: You shoot someone in the head, then run up to a local beauty spot and, lightly blood-stained, you sit in your car, watching to see who gets closest in their search for you, making a few notes for your letter.

Likely?
Personally I don't think any of that stuff about motorcycles zooming past and all that is very likely to be "real". What do I know though huh? It might be SOP.

It's nice up there I do know, and I think that although it's not marked on your map Taco cat, that it's well established and has been around for oodles. I went up in the 80's and there's a great view in good weather. I wasn't particularly inspired I have to say. (Although I was prepared to be.)

smithy wrote:That's Howard's house, that one with a line around.

Consider: You shoot someone in the head, then run up to a local beauty spot and, lightly blood-stained, you sit in your car, watching to see who gets closest in their search for you, making a few notes for your letter.

Likely?
Personally I don't think any of that stuff about motorcycles zooming past and all that is very likely to be "real". What do I know though huh? It might be SOP.

It's nice up there I do know, and I think that although it's not marked on your map Taco cat, that it's well established and has been around for oodles. I went up in the 80's and there's a great view in good weather. I wasn't particularly inspired I have to say. (Although I was prepared to be.)

Smithy, some good points there... But... (Lol)

First: " You shoot someone in the head, then run up to a local beauty spot and, lightly blood-stained, you sit in your car, watching to see who gets closest in their search for you, making a few notes for your letter. Likely?" Well, depends. If we are talking about a rational man, then no. But we're not talking about a rational man here, he's just shot a man in the middle of the street and took time to hang around ripping clothes and wiping down the cab. "then run up to a local beauty spot and, lightly blood-stained, you sit in your car". The point you make here is 'would he really run to a dark spot and sit in his car with blood stains on him?'. Well, to argue that Zodiac would have been concerned about his clothes having blood on them is to ignore the fact that he's just walked along Cherry st, and down the hill on Jackson in full public view. I would agree with you that you and I may not want to sit anywhere near the scene having blood on us, but we are rational thinking people (well, sometimes lol). I mean to suggest that Zodiac would have just wanted to flee the area because he had blood stains on him is to ignore how Zodiac took his time at the cab, was in no rush at all, and then walked down two public streets under the street lights, blood stains an all!

WC - yes OK, if he was a complete nutcase, he may have driven up to Inspiration Point. I was trying to come up with things that were likely, but then some of the points I'm trying on for size on other threads, I don't see why I should deny you on this one!

smithy wrote:WC - yes OK, if he was a complete nutcase, he may have driven up to Inspiration Point. I was trying to come up with things that were likely, but then some of the points I'm trying on for size on other threads, I don't see why I should deny you on this one!

As always Smithy, I appreciate the comments. I wouldn't want you to deny me your thoughts and theories on this thread, either. If you did, I would throw my toys out of the pram and sulk (hehe).

PS....

"WC - yes OK, if he was a complete nutcase, he may have driven up to Inspiration Point." Well if Zodiac was a normal, rational man, who used logic to determine his choices, then he was incredibly stupid.

Welsh Chappie wrote:PS....

"WC - yes OK, if he was a complete nutcase, he may have driven up to Inspiration Point." Well if Zodiac was a normal, rational man, who used logic to determine his choices, then he was incredibly stupid.

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He's not incredibly stupid. He's avoided capture all these years, hasn't he? That night he might have only needed to remove his glasses and put on a security guard cap, or some other uniform, and "Presto!", he's watching everything from a courtside seat.

Victor wrote:

Welsh Chappie wrote:PS....

"WC - yes OK, if he was a complete nutcase, he may have driven up to Inspiration Point." Well if Zodiac was a normal, rational man, who used logic to determine his choices, then he was incredibly stupid.

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He's not incredibly stupid. He's avoided capture all these years, hasn't he? That night he might have only needed to remove his glasses and put on a security guard cap, or some other uniform, and "Presto!", he's watching everything from a courtside seat.

"He's not incredibly stupid." That was my point exactly. If you read my comment and though I was stating Zodiac was stupid, then you misunderstood what it was I was saying. The point I was trying to make was that if Zodiac wasn't a nut case operating on impulsive desire's to kill, and was, in fact, a rational man with logical thought pattern, then his decision to kill at Washington & Cherry (Washington & Maple it seems was his intended kill location), was a high risk one, and very stupid. It almost, and should have, led to his capture. But, I don't believe Zodiac was a rational man who thought logically, so therefore, he is not stupid, he's more likely mentally ill.
Do you get what I mean?

Welsh Chappie wrote:
"He's not incredibly stupid." That was my point exactly. If you read my comment and though I was stating Zodiac was stupid, then you misunderstood what it was I was saying. The point I was trying to make was that if Zodiac wasn't a nut case operating on impulsive desire's to kill, and was, in fact, a rational man with logical thought pattern, then his decision to kill at Washington & Cherry (Washington & Maple it seems was his intended kill location), was a high risk one, and very stupid. It almost, and should have, led to his capture. But, I don't believe Zodiac was a rational man who thought logically, so therefore, he is not stupid, he's more likely mentally ill.
Do you get what I mean?

On the assumption that he were mentally ill, despite people all over the world working on this case, he's managed to fend off his discovery this long, kept them bickering over details like which way a victim's head was turned and whether or not LH was a robbery etc..., and trying to crack useless ciphers. Ingenious, more like it.