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Well, at the time it was probably 50/50. He had to go somewhere. He decided against going straight due to the darkness at the end of Maple, and Fouke had just left the conversation and headed west towards Arguello. So I guess Pelissetti decided to turn right and "walk around the block."

Mike

BuckwheatFlowers wrote:Okay, got some questions. Figured this was as good as place as any.

1 - Any clue why z would be wiping down the drivers side door?
2 - Did anyone ever talk to the Peda guy that was Pelissetti's partner?
3 - How do Pelissetti and Foulke not pass each other somewhere on Jackson? Something not right here.
4 - If the guy walking the dog was Mr. X, did he have reddish-blonde hair at the time? All the photos I've seen of him look like he has dark hair.
5- Is there any more police reports out there somewhere other than the 2 pages?

Thanks. Sorry if this stuff has already been asked and answered somewhere.

I think one possible answer to question one is that when Zodiac hailed Paul's cab and Paul stopped, Zodiac may have walked up to the drivers side and spoke to Paul through his drivers window and put his hands on the drivers side door while leaning speaking to Paul.

smithy wrote:

Welsh Chappie wrote:Well Zodiac seems to know too much about the coordinates of the search for it to simply be lucky guess after lucky guess so there are only two possibilities,

1. Zodiac was close enough to see it for himself.
2. Someone else he knew that lived in immediate area saw it and told him.

3. He got the details from the police force, somehow.
?

Number three is certainly my thoughts.

Soze

"He got the details from the police force, somehow."

Yes Zodiac must have walked into SFPD Reception and asked the on duty Officer for a copy's of the police reports from Oct 11. (Sorry, I know sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but I just can't help myself lol).

No but serious, Assuming Zodiac was not a Police Officer himself, how could Zodiac have found out through Law Enforcement?

Welsh Chappie wrote:Assuming Zodiac was not a Police Officer himself, how could Zodiac have found out through Law Enforcement?

Why would you assume that? lol

Welsh Chappie wrote:No but serious, Assuming Zodiac was not a Police Officer himself, how could Zodiac have found out through Law Enforcement?

The only possible answer I can think of is if Zodiac were a member of the press.

Personally, however, I think that Zodiac was able to provide so much about the search because he watched it unfold from the safety of his car.

Nachtsider wrote:

Welsh Chappie wrote:No but serious, Assuming Zodiac was not a Police Officer himself, how could Zodiac have found out through Law Enforcement?

The only possible answer I can think of is if Zodiac were a member of the press.

Personally, however, I think that Zodiac was able to provide so much about the search because he watched it unfold from the safety of his car.

I agree with you that Zodiac watched the search effort, but I don't think it would have likely been from his car, that's just my opinion. Where would he need to be parked to see the search? Only place I can see he would have to have parked to see the search is West Pacific Avenue itself and that would have stood out like a sore thumb. If he were anywhere in a parked car that would allow him to see the search, then that must mean that they (searching police) could also see his car. I think if Z had his car that night and got trapped and surrounded in it before he could drive away, then in all likelihood, he'd have been caught. I can't see police not looking into cars parked close to West Pacific. There is another possibility that Zodiac chose to stay and watch in his car, and wasn't because he was surrounded. But he would have needed to be close by in a car to do that, and he'd have been a sitting duck. I can't see him deciding to hang around by his own free will in a car. If he had a car parked in the area, then it was parked there for one reason...Escape. Just my opinion.

Theres another odd thing I recently noticed while using Google map: street view. When I first became interested in this case, I thought that coming from Washington & Cherry onto Jackson St, the first exit off of Jackson St and into the Presidio was on Spruce St, and that's the route I, for a long time, thought Zodiac had taken to get to the Presidio. I did not know that there was a pathway through onto West Pacific & into the Presidio on Maple St.(It's commonly accepted that Zodiac did walk down Jackson at least as far as Maple because Officers saw a man fitting his description there). But now, after checking Google Maps: Street View again, I've discovered that there is a pathway through to the Presidio at the top of Cherry St also! Why wouldn't Zodiac have ducked onto West Pacific using the pathway at the top of Cherry street? It would certainly remove any chance of him being seen on te far more risky Jackson St. I can only assume that Zodiac, whoever he was, did not know that that pathway was there at the top of Cherry street.

smithy wrote:

Welsh Chappie wrote:Assuming Zodiac was not a Police Officer himself, how could Zodiac have found out through Law Enforcement?

Why would you assume that? lol

Statistically, it's extremely unlikely that Zodiac would be a serving Police Officer. Also, Zodiac wrote letter after letter to the press in his own hand. Police work involves, as we all know, a huge amount of paper work from crime reports, arrest reports, witness statement taking etc etc. So, it wouldn't make sense, to me anyway, for Zodiac to keep writing and provoking police in his own hand to the point where almost every officer would be familiar with Z's hand, to also be writing out reports, taking witness statements etc in his own hand as a police officer.

I'm not saying that Zodiac wasn't a police officer, theres no way to know that for sure and that's why I said 'Assuming'. I am just saying that based on the known facts and data regarding Serial Killers, its very unlikely that Z would have been a serving Officer.

Nachtsider wrote:

Welsh Chappie wrote:No but serious, Assuming Zodiac was not a Police Officer himself, how could Zodiac have found out through Law Enforcement?

The only possible answer I can think of is if Zodiac were a member of the press.

Personally, however, I think that Zodiac was able to provide so much about the search because he watched it unfold from the safety of his car.

How about a relative of a cop, a janitor at the PD, over-heard LE at the donut shop.....