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Regardless of the above question, I'd have to agree with you that it sounds like Zodiac is making a threat to younger children, and if he is directly threatning any of the witnesses, it would more than likely be the Eight year old mentioned in the above document.

Solar Pons brought this to my attention a few years back at the old mb. I was convinced right away--I will try and find the old thread.

I have no doubt Zodiac saw this article and the threat was a little jab at the "youngsters" who saw him. School children would be youngsters and youngsters would be "kiddies".

Wier wrote:3. The term "Routine Robberies".

Seperately for consideration but also ties in (as inside info could relate to a cop)...the term "Routine Robberies". Is it just me or does that sound distinctly
like a Police term as opposed to one that would be used by an average citizen.? The inclusion of the word "routine" makes it sound like an inside term?

It does sound like cop lingo. A lot of what Zodiac wrote did. Not many people describe positions of peoples bodies---"feet to the west"...etc.

It also wouldn't surprise me if Zodiac started off with robberies.

That article, while not directly claiming it was Officer Fouke that was the 'Witness' who saw someone running into the Presidio, imply's that it was by stating that a witness saw a male run into the presidio, then giving a description straight afterwards of a male, approx 40 years of age, blonde crew cut, and a description of what he was wearing. The only person that we know of that gave this detailed description, was Don Fouke.

Welsh Chappie wrote:That article, while not directly claiming it was Officer Fouke that was the 'Witness' who saw someone running into the Presidio, imply's that it was by stating that a witness saw a male run into the presidio, then giving a description straight afterwards of a male, approx 40 years of age, blonde crew cut, and a description of what he was wearing. The only person that we know of that gave this detailed description, was Don Fouke.

But that wasn't Fouke's description...gray pants, etc.

I think this was the youngsters' description and why they later said the age was wrong in regards to the first composite. ?? They too mentioned the direction Paul's killer was headed.

Tahoe27 wrote:

Welsh Chappie wrote:That article, while not directly claiming it was Officer Fouke that was the 'Witness' who saw someone running into the Presidio, imply's that it was by stating that a witness saw a male run into the presidio, then giving a description straight afterwards of a male, approx 40 years of age, blonde crew cut, and a description of what he was wearing. The only person that we know of that gave this detailed description, was Don Fouke.

But that wasn't Fouke's description...gray pants, etc.

I think this was the youngsters' description and why they later said the age was wrong in regards to the first composite. ?? They too mentioned the direction Paul's killer was headed.

The young teen witnesses never gave a detailed description of what the man was wearing, as far as I know. And how can this description be given by the teen witnesses when it seems from the article that the person who gave this description also seems to be the person who saw this man dash into the presidio?

Considering that article has several goofs, I don't think I'd take much to heart.

Here in the PD report there is another description. I find it odd they don't mention Fouke, but it DOES say "reportees" gave description and mentions their vantage point.

They also don't mention the 8 year old.

http://www.zodiackiller.com/StineReport1.html

Edit: The reportee was of course the 16 year old.

Tahoe27 wrote:Considering that article has several goofs, I don't think I'd take much to heart.

Here in the PD report there is another description. I find it odd they don't mention Fouke, but it DOES say "reportees" gave description and mentions their vantage point.

They also don't mention a 16 year old or 8 year old, but we know there were three kids. (see pg 1 of link)

http://www.zodiackiller.com/StineReport2.html

Yes I know the reportees gavea description, but that was, as far as we know, only of what the man looked like, and not what he was wearing. The article suggests that the person who saw the man dash into the presidio was the one that gave a description of what he was wearing. Their vantage point was elevated (from above) and from a distance of 50 ft away. The report also states that the reportee was on scene along with the two other witnesses that were _____, aged 14, and ______, aged 13. So we do know the ages for two of the three witnesses from the scene across the street.

The 8 year old is made reference too in a seperate FBI article.

The report just seems to go from Paul Stine's log book and 1 fare logged, to a search of the JK Play area without giving any reference or reason as to why this area was of such interest and importance.

But, in the 2007 documentary 'This is the Zodiac Speaking', Fouke himself can be seen saying that he encountered Pelissetti and was told the suspect was white, whereupon Fouke states:

"We turned around to get to the Presidio. Our reasoning, well, my reasoning on that was turning down Maple would lead through to the Presidio and directly into Julius Kahn Playground, which had a lot of foliage. So we turned, and went looking for the alleged suspect in that area"

The only other 3rd party the article could be refering to when it states 'Later reports indicate someone was seen running into the presidio...' is the unknown Eight year old witnesses. It couldn't be anyone else as no other reports are known to have been made, nor any other witnesses known to have come foreward. If it was the Eight year old, we will never know because his/her identity remains a mystery, and no details other than age are given.