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Re: Grew up in the Wash-Cherry neighborhood thanks for the f
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Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:45 pmby Tahoe27
This is the backside of Maple.
He wouldn't have had to go through the bushes. I don't this has changed much since 1969...except smaller bushes. The bar may not even have been there then. I always thought he would have had a nice view from the top of Pacific .
Re: Grew up in the Wash-Cherry neighborhood thanks for the f
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Thu Jan 25, 2018 8:54 pmby Xcaliber
Well, you make a fair case. I'll take a good look around next time I'm in the neighborhood.
Not following you though re the Pacific hill photo?
Re: Grew up in the Wash-Cherry neighborhood thanks for the f
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Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:07 amby Richard Grinell
You are correct Tahoe, although at night you can imagine what he would see from Jackson.
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@37.78976 ... 6656?hl=en
Re: Grew up in the Wash-Cherry neighborhood thanks for the f
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Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:17 amby Xcaliber
That's a good point too. If you didn't know the area pretty well, your instinct at night might be that you'd end up in someone's backyard.
Was Kjell Qyale a legitimate suspect?
Re: Grew up in the Wash-Cherry neighborhood thanks for the f
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Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:04 amby Richard Grinell
Depends who you ask. Mike Rodelli would say yes. For me, no. He was born July 7, 1919. I'm with Michael Butterfield on this, the evidence against any of the suspects can hardly be described as evidence, and the way the suspects are shoehorned to fit the evidence is the wrong way around. Kim Rossmo explains this perfectly when he says let the evidence drive the suspect.
"If we've made our determination beforehand the psychological research is very clear, try as we might, we become locked into circular patterns of thinking. We see titles (claiming individuals as Zodiac) full of hubris about how they've solved the Zodiac case, but they tend to be textbooks of how not to do a criminal investigation."
Re: Grew up in the Wash-Cherry neighborhood thanks for the f
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Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:23 pmby joku
The map fits perfectly with Zodiac's expalantion. However I still can't get over the fact that the dogs would be in an entirely wrong direction! If they gave the dogs a scent at the Stine scene, they should have been led right to Zodiac. The traces were fresh.
Re: Grew up in the Wash-Cherry neighborhood thanks for the f
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Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:33 pmby Xcaliber
Wouldn't the dogs have been too late either way though?
Re: Grew up in the Wash-Cherry neighborhood thanks for the f
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Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:47 pmby Tahoe27
They weren't scent dogs.
Re: Grew up in the Wash-Cherry neighborhood thanks for the f
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Fri Jan 26, 2018 1:53 pmby joku
Xcaliber wrote:Wouldn't the dogs have been too late either way though?
The scent can linger for a surprisingly long time. It was within hours that they brought the dogs on the scene, I think. And it did not rain. So the track would still be very clear to the dogs.
Tahoe27 wrote:They weren't scent dogs.
Well this explains everything.
Re: Grew up in the Wash-Cherry neighborhood thanks for the f
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Fri Jan 26, 2018 2:30 pmby Xcaliber
By the positioning of the dogs, did the police suspect he ran up Arguello and into the Presidio right there?