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Yep, I am one of those who were either too lazy or had other things that needed to get done that day to read 5 pages.This morning I had the time and did read them.
I still don't understand why Paul's Stine's sister didn't know or didn't remember where Joe had lived? I also wonder about the other things she had to say about Gyke being at Paul's funeral, or the "tall" guy who followed her? Is seems that when relatives are contacted by someone as well known in the Z case as Tom V.is. They are excited to talk to him about their family member who was killed and believe the person that they are talking to ,has the true name of the Zodiac and wants to help him solve the case.

Is it just me who thinks that some of these people tell Tom what they think he wants to hear,to make him like them or or make him happy? Nancy Slover adored Tom and said Gykes voice was very much like the voice she had heard on July 5th 1969.
Yet Gykes voice was neither slow talking as if he was reading a script, neither was it monotone or a deep raspy sounding voice,like the voice we have been told Zodiac's voice was like.
I haven't seen any picture of him when he looked close to being stocky or shorter. (This is only my opinion and of course I have my own suspects,one of which matches the age,fits the description,has a voice like Zodiac and who prints just like him)
Joe Stine's voice was not at all like Zodiac's either.
If anyone has a suspect with that sort of voice, who has a formal way of speaking and looks like the known description, who is old enough,( Not 16 yrs old in 1969 LOL)who writes like Zodiac and who possibly either lived or worked in the Vallejo area. Then you could be onto a good suspect.

Quicktrader wrote:Rather not, the wounds were quite fresh ones and as far as I know he had claimed that he had gotten slapped by a girl. CJB was three years earlier. Nevertheless I agree that CJBs situation would rather lead to such injuries than shooting Paul Stine into the back of his head.

QT

Paul was shot behind the right ear. He had dark marks on his left hand. Many have questions what those dark marks were. Did Paul use his left hand to maybe try and grab the gun/fight back in the moment before his shooting?

Tahoe...

I'm one of those who will always believe that if I'm Z and even remotely thinking of shooting Paul I'm going in the back seat, period. No way I'm going to tip my hand or allow Paul to see what's coming. That being said I always thought the most logical reason for the marks on the back of Paul's hand would be that Paul had told Z what the fare was and had reached towards the back seat with his left hand to get the $$ and right about that time Z fires. I don't recall the autopsy stating they tested those marks at all. Today obviously they would have. Not sure either if they really checked the cab for any kind of splatter. I believe the bullet never left Paul, so there wouldn't be any frontal splatter, but I would think there still would have been some back splatter towards the back seat area, back of Paul's seat etc. if the shot came from behind. Of course forensics today is handled totally different than it was in 1969. I don't think today there would ever been a question where Z was when he shot Paul, the forensics would prove that without any doubt at all.

BayArea60s

Yes, it is odd. There is talk of splatter on the dashboard...which is strange with no exit wound. I agree, about forensics today. I too always felt Zodiac would be in the back. Seems like a logical place to be if one considers where Paul was shot, but that's not to say it impossible from the front seat.

Paul wasn't shot in the back of the head which you might expect from a guy sitting behind him - he was shot in his cheekbone in the right side of his face. Would make sense if someone was sitting up front and would account for no splatter in the back.

Brings us back to whether Paul knew his murderer...

Quagmire wrote:Paul wasn't shot in the back of the head which you might expect from a guy sitting behind him - he was shot in his cheekbone in the right side of his face. Would make sense if someone was sitting up front and would account for no splatter in the back.

Brings us back to whether Paul knew his murderer...

Yes, the report says anterior to the right ear. I was thinking it was just behind the ear, but it was in front of it.

Quagmire wrote:Paul wasn't shot in the back of the head which you might expect from a guy sitting behind him - he was shot in his cheekbone in the right side of his face. Would make sense if someone was sitting up front and would account for no splatter in the back.

Brings us back to whether Paul knew his murderer...

A bit off topic but do we know if Paul was a sinistral? Because of Joe Stines scratches in the left part of his face..

QT

When you look at the trajectory of the shot, the bullet enters just above ear lobe level and right in front of ear, and the bullet travels towards the front of Paul's face. So if shot comes from front seat Paul's face would be towards driver's side window, turned totally away from passenger side. That I guess could happen, anything is possible when we're talking about a split second's worth of time. There wouldn't be much if any splatter since the bullet stayed in Paul's head. The shot from behind still makes more sense to me, but again we're talking split seconds so almost anything is possible.
One thing I will say cause I noticed this way back when he first came on TV, and it is that Joe Stine is a dead ringer for that composite. Now they say everyone looked like Z, well Joe Stine certainly did.

Bayarea60s wrote:One thing I will say cause I noticed this way back when he first came on TV, and it is that Joe Stine is a dead ringer for that composite. Now they say everyone looked like Z, well Joe Stine certainly did.

Joe wasn't large enough to fit the description.

Nachtsider wrote:

Bayarea60s wrote:One thing I will say cause I noticed this way back when he first came on TV, and it is that Joe Stine is a dead ringer for that composite. Now they say everyone looked like Z, well Joe Stine certainly did.

Joe wasn't large enough to fit the description.

Which one?