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masootz wrote:10/22/69 according to youtube

Thus the injuries had already healed for almost two weeks..

QT

Quicktrader wrote:

masootz wrote:10/22/69 according to youtube

Thus the injuries had already healed for almost two weeks..

QT

Going on the wild assumption that Joe Stine is Z and assuming that Z killed CJB then the scars on his face came from Cheri Jo.

Rather not, the wounds were quite fresh ones and as far as I know he had claimed that he had gotten slapped by a girl. CJB was three years earlier. Nevertheless I agree that CJBs situation would rather lead to such injuries than shooting Paul Stine into the back of his head.

QT

Quicktrader wrote:Rather not, the wounds were quite fresh ones and as far as I know he had claimed that he had gotten slapped by a girl. CJB was three years earlier. Nevertheless I agree that CJBs situation would rather lead to such injuries than shooting Paul Stine into the back of his head.

QT

Who slapped him ? Mike Tyson ? those wounds look like old healed scar tissue.

Some have argued those marks are oil. He was working at a garage.

We got into this big time in other threads. It did not go over too well. People don't like others accusing a brother of any wrong doing. My thing is, more often than not, it IS a family member responsible. Those are the first people (generally) looked at. Cheri's father and brother were considered by LE...why not Joe? Joe had is brother institutionalized so there was obviously some rifts among them.

Did you know Joe bought Paul the shirt he was killed in? Not that it means anything. Just thought it was interesting.

Here is the detailed conversation via another thread here:

viewtopic.php?f=30&t=612

Didn't Paul Stine's sister tell us in chat at Zkiller.com, that Joe did not live in Vallejo? I found a Stine there but not Joe, he could have lived with a relative and the sister forgot?
I do not think that Joe had anything to do with any Zodiac murders. In a homicide the detectives start first with family members, so he was probably eliminated as a suspect.

From what I have learned about Paul, if you knew him you loved him, he was a wonderful person.

sandy betts wrote:Didn't Paul Stine's sister tell us in chat at Zkiller.com, that Joe did not live in Vallejo? I found a Stine there but not Joe, he could have lived with a relative and the sister forgot?
I do not think that Joe had anything to do with any Zodiac murders. In a homicide the detectives start first with family members, so he was probably eliminated as a suspect.

From what I have learned about Paul, if you knew him you loved him, he was a wonderful person.

He did indeed live in Modesto, however it seems he had lived in Vallejo before (see obituary article in this thread). Unclear when he had moved, possibly after his step-father Roy James Harrison had died..obituary says that Harrison had lived in Modesto for 28 years. His wife had died three years later, having lived in Modesto for 31 years..therefore I guess they (Harrison and the Stine brother) in about 1957 (thus most likely Joe had lived in Vallejo when he still was a child).

We can finally assume a connection between Joe/Paul Stine and the Vallejo area (his stepfather).

QT

I think the notion that Joe Stine was Zodiac and killed his own brother is quite grotesque.

I agree with Nachtsider!

For the edification of the people who are too lazy to go back and read the whole thread. Joe Stine and his wife Helen are listed as living in NAPA in the 1967 Polk's Directory.



Joe Stine and Helen's marriage record.



The sister who said that Joe did not live in Vallejo in 1968, lived in Vallejo herself from at least 1967 to 1973. Go back to the first page of the thread and read about that.

It's possible that the person who wrote up Roy Harrison's obit confused which of his step children lived where in 1968. It's also possible that Joe and his wife Helen had moved to Vallejo briefly before divorcing September 1970 and that information is not reflected in the city directories.

So, Joe Stine did not live in Vallejo as a child. Furthermore Audra (Busby) Stine Harrison died in 1988, not three years after her husband Roy Harrison.



EDIT!!!!!

I went back and reread the thread, which I should have done before posting. The CXXXX Nease, husband Alford, who lived in Vallejo in 1968 onward is not Joe and Paul Stine's sister. There were two CXXXX Stine's born in 1943, one in LA County and one in Shasta County. It is the CXXXX Stine that was born in LA County and married Alford Nease that moved to Vallejo. Her mother's maiden name was Maddes.

Nachtsider wrote:I think the notion that Joe Stine was Zodiac and killed his own brother is quite grotesque.

Yes. But sadly not out of the realm of possibilities.