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Welsh Chappie wrote:SFPD believe Zodiac will return to the scene one day and try and pull another cab driver homicide. This is why thay have placed their covertly parked undercover van, sporting it's one way tinted windows that conceal a 7 man S.W.A.T Team sitting inside/ They have been waiting there now for the past 44 years.

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Haha..haven't had such a good laugh for a while..

With Z living in the small black car behind them..since 44 years..waiting for them to leave



(Sorry, no picture of Zodiac available due to obvious reasons..but you clearly can see his pink blouse behind the seat belt..)

Lol....Literally. That reply also made me laugh out lout

But that vehicle you have submitted a photograph of may only be a lookalike based on an eye witness description. This vehicle below was what he actually parked behind them in.

This is actually how he eluded capture on the night of Oct 11 in the park area. He said he was in the park, but this was obviously a play on words because he actually meant he was in park, as in, he turned the engine off, and placed the vehicle 'in park'. This is where Zodiac was hiding on the grounds of The Presidio park. Police failed to find the huge multi-coloured van as suspicious as they say they were given information from despatch to BOTL for a White Male, not multi-coloured flower power van.



I believe he drove out from under cover to then make his way around to Washington & Cherry where he parked behind the team of Officers searching for him and where he has remained for the past 44 years.

Welsh Chappie wrote:

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I believe he drove out from under cover to then make his way around to Washington & Cherry where he parked behind the team of Officers searching for him and where he has remained for the past 44 years.

Now, that, is funny.


Soze

But back to seriousness and the topic. Another possible clue that Zodiac does know that area well and was possibly in a house is the fact he tries to give the impression that he does not know the name of the street he actually ended up at in the cab. Zodiac writes "I am the murderer of the cab driver over by Washington street and Maple street last night." Either he doesn't know the area as his letter suggests in order to name the actual location as Washington & Cherry, or he does know the name of it but just wants to give the impression that he doesn't and is unfamiliar with that area because actually, he is local to the area and wants to distance himself from it. One thing the FBI behavioural Unit will tell you about Serial Killers is that they will always stay within their comfort zone when they kill and will feel comfortable in the area they strike. They will almost never venture into an area they are not familiar with to kill. So the odds are Zodiac struck in Presidio Heights because he knew the area well enough to be comfortable to kill and escape there. By saying "Over by Washington and Maple streets" it gives the reader the impression that he doesn't know the actual street name of Cherry, and therefor he cannot know the area well but that goes against what we know serial killers do and always strike where they are familiar with their environment.

It's long been a point of discussion as to why Zodiac asked to go to Washington & Maple and yet Stine's cab was found one block further at Washington & Cherry. Maybe it's as simple as 'he did it deliberately so he could write that the incident happened 'over by Washington Street's and Maple Street's' to give the appearance he didn't have a clue where he was and was unfamiliar with the area.' Serial Killers never venture out of their comfort Zone to kill, and Zodiac certainly knew the area well enough to avoid a posse of responding units and a search effort that, as Chief Lee puts it "Even a mouse couldn't have escaped."

Very good possibility Chappie.

I just always assumed he wrote that as another way to "prove" that he did the crime. The public only knew Washington and Cherry, but he made sure they knew the "real details" if you know what I mean.

He wanted them to know that even though the murder took place on Washington and Cherry, only HE and police knew that his ride was supposed to end on Maple. He loved showing off the "real details." Just like most thought the murder of Darlene Ferrin was on July 5th...he made sure people knew it was actually on July 4th.

xEnigm4x wrote:Very good possibility Chappie.

I just always assumed he wrote that as another way to "prove" that he did the crime. The public only knew Washington and Cherry, but he made sure they knew the "real details" if you know what I mean.

He wanted them to know that even though the murder took place on Washington and Cherry, only HE and police knew that his ride was supposed to end on Maple. He loved showing off the "real details." Just like most thought the murder of Darlene Ferrin was on July 5th...he made sure people knew it was actually on July 4th.

Yes that's a good point also. I went to the FBI website today and specifically their 'Serial Murder' page. Here's just two paragraphs....

"For years, law enforcement investigators, academics, mental health experts, and the media have studied serial murder, from Jack the Ripper in the late 1800s to the sniper killings in 2002, and from the “Zodiac Killer” in California to the “BTK Killer” in Kansas. These diverse groups have long attempted to understand the complex issues related to serial murder investigations. Until the Serial Murder Symposium, however, there had been few attempts to reach a consensus on some of these issues.

Myth: All serial murderers travel and operate interstate.

Most serial killers have very defined geographic areas of operation. They conduct their killings within comfort zones that are often defined by an anchor point (e.g. place of residence, employment, or residence of a relative). Serial murderers will, at times, spiral their activities outside of their comfort zone, when their confidence has grown through experience or to avoid detection. Very few serial murderers travel interstate to kill.

The few serial killers who do travel interstate to kill fall into a few categories:

• Itinerant individuals who move from place to place.
• Homeless individuals who are transients.
• Individuals whose employment lends itself to interstate or transnational travel, such as truck drivers or those in military service."

That's why I say that the odds are Zodiac knew that area well, or knew someone who lived there. If Zodiac's intent was always to 'dash into the presidio' then why didn't he use the entrance at the top of Cherry Street? Why walk down Jackson Street, under street lights and in full view of any passing motorist or pedestrian, to get to Maple Street to enter the Presidio when he could have got onto West Pacific Avenue and the Presidio at Cherry Street? I think he stayed on the street because he was heading for somewhere specific and it wasn't The Presidio and Julius Kahn.

There really isnt much discussion about the Arguello gate to Presidio Golf Course..not a bad place to hide an still(sorta) see an hear(definitely) the action IMO..

Welsh Chappie wrote:
Myth: All serial murderers travel and operate interstate.

Most serial killers have very defined geographic areas of operation. They conduct their killings within comfort zones that are often defined by an anchor point (e.g. place of residence, employment, or residence of a relative). Serial murderers will, at times, spiral their activities outside of their comfort zone, when their confidence has grown through experience or to avoid detection. Very few serial murderers travel interstate to kill.

Of note, one of the very interesting things about BTK is that his activities actually spiraled INTO his "comfort zone" i.e. he began choosing victims closer to home in Park City, KS. Even his communications in 2004 seemed (in retrospect) to be moving closer to his home. Unfortunately, the victims weren't recognized so the geographical locations were never factored in. An unconscious desire to be caught and receive his due recognition, perhaps?

Here is my theory on it and don't think Zodiac lived near LHR , BRS or LB but think he was familiar with the areas in the past. I think they all was distractions to throw LE off while getting the attention he so wanted while living in San Fransisco.The final killing would actually be near where he lives to terrorize the big city he so wanted to do so and his main agenda. Why he changed his MO and no longer targeting couples and wanted a easy kill and what better way to do so by hailing a cab. I think he pick a wealthy section of SF as well so no one felt safe in the city period. To terrorize the city of San Fransisco was his goal to begin with and why we didn't hear any more proven killings from him since. He finally got the attention he wanted and achieved his main goal.

I also think Zodiac possibly wanted to watch the police response this time. If he did live close, or had a friend or relative who did, he probably wagered that the police would assume that the offender, later discovered to be 'Zodiac', wouldn't reside in such an affluent area of the City, and that's exactly what the responding Don Fouke did. When Fouke was asked why he did not report seeing a white male turn onto a driveway on Jackson Street that night Fouke replied: "I didn't think about it in the report because I assumed that he (Offender) didn't live in the neighbourhood, A upper-middle class neighbourhood."