Revised composite sketch

[Tahoe27]

E., I don't mean to quibble, but "... if Z is making reference to an encounter with police that was not public knowledge, it likely means that he was the individual that the Fouke memo is referring to.."
Uh, no. It means the guy who wrote the letter had access to information which wasn't public knowledge. That's it.

If we go by Fouke's statements in later years, apparently it wasn't police knowledge either.

Fouke basically said he didn't tell investigators about the Jackson house "let them figure it out".

So we are left with WTF did Fouke tell them the night of Stine's murder...or even the few days after. No doubt Fouke got a better look, but WHEN did he provide his description BEFORE the memo?

[smithy]

T., well!
One of the kids followed the perp away from the scene and north on Cherry, it's been said. By Pellisetti, I think. It would be logical then, perhaps, to believe he would go into the park to avoid capture - so searching there ...? Fine by me. Some say Fouke tipped everyone off to the idea that he went into the park, but I don't think he's ever said so, has he. That's a presumption. Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't!
(That statement on the tape about letting them "figure it out" is just bizarre.....)

The memo is very odd. The wording's not what I would expect from a police officer. He writes about himself in the third person! I mean, wtf?

[Tahoe27]

...Some say Fouke tipped everyone off to the idea that he went into the park, but I don't think he's ever said so, has he. That's a presumption. Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't!

He wrote it in the memo.

[smithy]

Indeed.
"The memo is very odd. The wording's not what I would expect from a police officer. He writes about himself in the third person! I mean, wtf?"
...or does that just make me sound like a bit of a conspiracy theorist nut job?

[morf13]

T., well!
One of the kids followed the perp away from the scene and north on Cherry, it's been said. By Pellisetti, I think

I don't think that's correct. It was Palisetti that mentioned that when he got to the scene, the kids or at least one of them was walking up to the cab,and he stopped them.

[traveller1st]

T., well!
One of the kids followed the perp away from the scene and north on Cherry, it's been said. By Pellisetti, I think

I don't think that's correct. It was Palisetti that mentioned that when he got to the scene, the kids or at least one of them was walking up to the cab,and he stopped them.

IIRC one of the kids went to the corner and watched Zodiac walk away and turn onto Jackson. Not totally follow and that's where Pellisetti encountered him and ushered him and the other kids back into their house or at least away from the crime scene. Mike R posted this info based on interviews with the kids, witnesses, years later. It was quite detailed and very informative.

[morf13]

Well then that leaves ZERO doubt, it was Zodiac they saw if they saw anybody. Same description, on the same road,at the same time. If Palisetti got there that fast, as the kid was walking out there, and the kid saw z, then that means Palisetti was right on Z's heels, makes it even harder to believe that Z got away.
Theres an 8yr old witness mixed up someplace here, the one in the FBI report that identified somebody as possibly being z

[mike_r]

Hi-

Pelissetti was not right on Z's heels. When he got there Z had already reached the next corner. He then got the kids into the house, checked out the cab, changed the description and then slowly and cautiously (see the DVD description he provides) proceeded up Cherry checking all the nooks and crannies, so he didn't get HIS head blown off.

He did not necessarily take literally the statement the kid PRESUMABLY made to him indicating that he had seen Z walk to the next corner. So Z had a considerable head start on Pelissetti.

Mike

[Welsh Chappie]

". Considering the fact that the age estimate was radically changed to reflect the precise age range (35-45) that Sgt. Fouke gave in his report weeks later, I think it is reasonable to believe that the alterations in the composite sketch may, despite his apparent denials, come directly from Fouke's observations."

I have always believed it was. In the documentary This is the Zodiac Speaking, Fouke says "One month later, when the composite came out at Richmond Station and was posted on the wall, he looked similar to the man I had seen on October 11th."

Fouke states in the Documentary "I never spoke to Toschi that I remember. He may have been the Inspector that came out and asked me about the Composite Drawing and I told him the suspect was older & heavier"

When Fouke is discussing the man he saw and his appearing similar to the composite, this drawing pop's up....

Zodiac.jpg

I think this is probably more accurate than the teen's sketch because Fouke got such a good detailed look at him that he could describe his jacket as having elastic on the cuffs,, and that his boot's were tan in colour, his trousers were rust coloured (which I believe may have been the shine of blood) and that his hair was possibly greying at the rear.

[Nachtsider]

That picture is not a police sketch.