The Costume

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The Costume

Postby Chaucer » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:02 pm

Clearly, one of the most striking details of the LB attack and in fact the case in general is the costume.

Hartnell described the symbol on the front of the tunic as a "perfect circle" and that it looked like it had been done "with some care" rather than hastily drawn on.

Does this mean it was stitched? How would someone in 1969 go about making a costume like this? Would a simple sewing machine and a fabric cross circle do the trick? Or was it painted on?

Any ideas on how Zodiac went about making his infamous "executioner's hood" and iconic symbol?
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Re: The Costume

Postby CuriousCat » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:39 pm

Chaucer wrote:How would someone in 1969 go about making a costume like this?



The same way someone would today.
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Re: The Costume

Postby Chaucer » Wed Apr 10, 2019 7:44 pm

CuriousCat wrote:
Chaucer wrote:How would someone in 1969 go about making a costume like this?



The same way someone would today.

Thanks. That's very informative and helpful.

Could you elaborate, perhaps, and explain how that might be done? Sewing? Painting? Iron on? What skills and supplies would be needed to accomplish it?
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Re: The Costume

Postby CuriousCat » Wed Apr 10, 2019 8:23 pm

Well, it all depends. All we have it Hartnell giving a general description, but he said the cross looked like it was stitched on and made with some degree of care and he also specifically said it wasn't painted on. Based on that, it most likely required someone with a good amount of sewing skills. A simple needle and thread and a pair of scissors is all that would really be required, maybe a sewing machine but that isn't necessary.

I'm pretty sure iron on patches were available then, so it's possible he cut it out of a patch and ironed it on. That wouldn't have taken a lot of sewing skills, but creating the hood would still require some degree of knowledge and experience. Kind of hard to say with just Hartnell's general description available.
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Re: The Costume

Postby Claypooles » Thu Apr 11, 2019 2:48 am

Hartnell didn't give much information about the hood. Its description really makes it look like a grocery brown paper bag painted in black, but such a thing would make noise when moving, plus it would be difficult to keep it on your head while stabbing people.
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Re: The Costume

Postby Chaucer » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:22 am

CuriousCat wrote: he said the cross looked like it was stitched on and made with some degree of care and he also specifically said it wasn't painted on.

This is interesting. I hadn't heard that Hartnell specifically said that it had been ironed on. Do you have the source for that?

Also, I'd always assumed that the costume was simply a black pillowcase cut halfway up each side. However. I've read some descriptions where it is a hood with a tunic separate - basically two different articles.

Has there been any discussion of how accurate the popular visual depictions of the costume are?
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Re: The Costume

Postby Richard Grinell » Thu Apr 11, 2019 7:34 am

Curious Cat never said it was ironed on, he just touted it as an idea.

Bryan Hartnell stated that the assailant wore a black hooded mask made of a cloth material, covering his entire head and shoulders, reaching down to the waist. On the front of the four cornered mask at the chest area was a white circle (3 x 3 inches in diameter) and a symmetrical cross. He would further elaborate on the design of the crosshairs, as well as later in the 2007 Zodiac documentary, stating "It looked like it was made with a machine or with some degree of care- it wasn't just scrawled on with white paint. It was proportional."
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Re: The Costume

Postby Chaucer » Thu Apr 11, 2019 8:25 am

Richard Grinell wrote:Curious Cat never said it was ironed on, he just touted it as an idea.

Bryan Hartnell stated that the assailant wore a black hooded mask made of a cloth material, covering his entire head and shoulders, reaching down to the waist. On the front of the four cornered mask at the chest area was a white circle (3 x 3 inches in diameter) and a symmetrical cross. He would further elaborate on the design of the crosshairs, as well as later in the 2007 Zodiac documentary, stating "It looked like it was made with a machine or with some degree of care- it wasn't just scrawled on with white paint. It was proportional."

That was my mistake. I meant "stitched on". I know that Hartnell said that the costume looked like it was made with a machine. I assume he meant a sewing machine?

Another interesting detail is that the circle was only 3 inches in diameter. Most people think of the symbol being emblazoned across the entire front of the costume, when it fact is was quite small.

Lastly, I don't recall Hartnell saying that the costume reached down to the waist. Can you provide a source?
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Re: The Costume

Postby Richard Grinell » Thu Apr 11, 2019 9:02 am

It's often referred to as a waistline bib, but to be truly accurate, it was described as coming down to his stomach.
http://www.zodiackiller.com/HartnellInterview7.html
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Re: The Costume

Postby Chaucer » Thu Apr 11, 2019 10:14 am

From Hartnell's description it sounds like it was a three or four piece costume:

You have the bib or tunic, shoulder flaps, and the hood itself which had a square top which seemed to be deliberately made. So this isn't just a burlap sack that someone cut holes in. This was carefully planned and creatively made. Designed, cut, stitched together, and then the symbol made and stitched on perfectly.
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