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Re: Zodiac DID wear glases under his hood at Berryessa!

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 3:18 pm
by morf13
Seagull wrote:
jroberson wrote:
It is hard to accept but then where did Stine's glasses go? Down the rabbit hole?



It has been rumored/speculated that the whereabouts of Paul Stine's glasses has been deliberately held back by LE to test whether or not a person reporting a possible suspect can be believed. In other words, IF LE is in possession of Stine's glasses and they get someone that comes in and says "I know who Zodiac is, I have his glasses" (ala Deb Perez) they will know that person is deluded.

I suppose that's a possible scenario. Since we have virtually nothing in the way of SFPD reports there is no way to know.


Deb, I have heard the same thing. I was debating on posting a graphic pic of Stine at the crime scene, but have decided not to. There's a black box over his face, but I am wondering if Trav could enhance the pic to see if the frame of the glasses is on his ears.

Re: Zodiac DID wear glases under his hood at Berryessa!

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 3:22 pm
by Seagull
morf13 wrote:
Seagull wrote:
jroberson wrote:
It is hard to accept but then where did Stine's glasses go? Down the rabbit hole?



It has been rumored/speculated that the whereabouts of Paul Stine's glasses has been deliberately held back by LE to test whether or not a person reporting a possible suspect can be believed. In other words, IF LE is in possession of Stine's glasses and they get someone that comes in and says "I know who Zodiac is, I have his glasses" (ala Deb Perez) they will know that person is deluded.

I suppose that's a possible scenario. Since we have virtually nothing in the way of SFPD reports there is no way to know.


Deb, I have heard the same thing. I was debating on posting a graphic pic of Stine at the crime scene, but have decided not to. There's a black box over his face, but I am wondering if Trav could enhance the pic to see if the frame of the glasses is on his ears.


I believe there is a picture of Stine without that black box floating around. Do a Google image search maybe. I have read that people believe they can see Stine's glasses on the passenger side floorboard in one of those pix. It is entirely possible that the glasses were knocked off either when shot or when getting the shirt piece.

Re: Zodiac DID wear glases under his hood at Berryessa!

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 3:24 pm
by jroberson
Norse wrote:But look at it this way: He has no glasses. He becomes aware that he's being watched (by the kids). What does he do? He grabs the dead guy's glasses for a disguise. Does that make sense?


It does, actually, if you're "that kind of guy". ;)

But I agree...they may have the glasses somewhere in storage. Still, one wonders why they cannot be seen at PH.

As for "enhancing" the image, I think morf means zooming in and sharpening. Maybe.


Regardless, I doubt the guy's glasses would still be attached to his head after a bullet tore through his skull at point blank and he was manhandled like a department store mannequin by not only the Zodiac but the responding emergency crew.

Re: Zodiac DID wear glases under his hood at Berryessa!

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 3:27 pm
by jroberson
One thing about it, just looking, it doesn't appear Stine's glasses were of enormous Rx.

Image


Perhaps a -3 or -4. -5, max, I'd say.

Re: Zodiac DID wear glases under his hood at Berryessa!

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 3:48 pm
by morf13
jroberson wrote:One thing about it, just looking, it doesn't appear Stine's glasses were of enormous Rx.

Image


Perhaps a -3 or -4. -5, max, I'd say.


I believe, and Deb may verify, this pic is of Stine after he was dead, and done by the mortuary. If true, they likely didn't use real RX glasses, but cheap clear glasses

Re: Zodiac DID wear glases under his hood at Berryessa!

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 3:53 pm
by morf13
Link to Stine's crime scene pic at Butterfield's: (warning graphic)
http://www.zodiackillerfacts.com/galler ... e_door.jpg

Trying to see glasses, I think what may be the frame of glasses on the left side of his head,closest to ground.

Re: Zodiac DID wear glases under his hood at Berryessa!

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 3:53 pm
by Seagull
No, I don't think it is Morf. I thought it was his drivers license picture. I think that if the picture was taken after death his head would be way more messed up even if he was cleaned up.

Re: Zodiac DID wear glases under his hood at Berryessa!

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 3:55 pm
by morf13
Seagull wrote:No, I don't think it is Morf. I thought it was his drivers license picture. I think that if the picture was taken after death his head would be way more messed up even if he was cleaned up.


Okay just checking, I had heard someplace that the infamous pic we see of him is at the mortuary

Re: Zodiac DID wear glases under his hood at Berryessa!

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 4:01 pm
by morf13
Thread's going a bit off topic from the lake B crime, and deserves to be in the Stine section which I will put it. Hard to tell, pic is small, but seems like Stine could have glasses on his head here

Re: Zodiac DID wear glases under his hood at Berryessa!

PostPosted: Mon May 18, 2015 4:05 pm
by Tahoe27
There is a close-up of Stine's face in this same position without redaction. No glasses.