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People seem to swear by the reports except when what is in them doesn't jive with their theories!

Hm...this one appears to possibly be referring to the first interview of Hartnell, doesn't it? Hartnell described the cross with the lines 'hung out' over the circle. Here it's reduced to a 'symmetrical cross' only. Not sure but this apears to be a later statement. In the first one, where he apparently did not even know that Cecilia had died, he does not mention cloth at all. But he does mention the comparison to the shapes of a paper sack.

Also, this text was not written by himself. Someone else refers to what he had said ('Hartnell further stated'). Nevertheless...IF the mask/overhang had consisted of two separate parts, as found by Sandy, even the cloth would be going quite well with Hartnell's observation, as the main part of the mask was out of cloth hanging down to his belli and back. Another hint, in that context, is that if you continue reading, Hartnell mentions the mask to be 'similar to paper bag in style'. So he again considers it being close to or similar to a normal (uncolored) paper bag. It also should be considered that, if Hartnell mentioned cloth first, with a typewriter it is not so easy to correct a full sentence.

To me it appears as if Hartnell may had seen both, cloth and something similar to a paper bag, e.g. a colored, wadded up paper bag. At least I wouldn't rule it out to be out of inked paper, as the word paper bag/sack shows up in both interviews as well as the sketch, so at least in three different documentations.

QT

Hartnell also stated that the Crosshair logo on the hood wasn't drawn, or painted on, it was sewn on, which again, rules out a paper bag

When LE and the newspapers were talking about the "hood" they were talking about the costume as being the "Hood " The logo was not on the paper Hood , the logo was on the poncho part of the costume near the chest area. Geez, It wasn't on the forhead section of the hood for God's sake !

sandy betts wrote:When LE and the newspapers were talking about the "hood" they were talking about the costume as being the "Hood " The logo was not on the paper Hood , the logo was on the poncho part of the costume near the chest area. Geez, It wasn't on the forhead section of the hood for God's sake !

Agree...Sandy can you still remember on which side of the car the stuff was found? Passenger or driver's side? And how the car was parked there?

Also did your husband drive there, how was the situation on that day? Thx

Quicktrader wrote:

sandy betts wrote:When LE and the newspapers were talking about the "hood" they were talking about the costume as being the "Hood " The logo was not on the paper Hood , the logo was on the poncho part of the costume near the chest area. Geez, It wasn't on the forhead section of the hood for God's sake !

Agree...Sandy can you still remember on which side of the car the stuff was found? Passenger or driver's side? And how the car was parked there?

My husband drove the car there , it was parked to the right of the main entrance, facing the restaurant, not in a hidden area of the parking lot. So the person who put all of that stuff in the car had to be pretty bold I would think ? (Although most people don't pay attention to someone putting things in a car )The poncho wasn't folded, it was as if it was tossed onto the back seat, I don't think I could see the logo until I picked it up?
The plastic name tag with the name Daniel Perez ,was on the back seat next to the poncho. The hood was wadded up and thrown behind the passenger seat on the floor. The dictionary and everything else was behind the driver’s seat on the floor,at the bottom of the neatly stacked stuff ,the ammo can was on top of the dictionary.

I think the green plastic alphabet template was either on top of the dictionary on under it, not sure ? The "Healds college" ruler and two erasers were next to the dictionary. All of the jewelry, the tiny Catholic prayer book and the silver protractor were at the bottom of the ammo can , which was filled with felt tipped pens, most of them were dark in color. One earring was a screw on type , it had a tiny cross.

Could that ruler belong to a victim or could Zodiac have been a student at Healds college ?
Looking back at the tiny Catholic prayer book and the earring with the cross, the wrist watch, I wonder if those could have belonged to Cheri Jo Bates, she was Catholic . The page that would have the owners name on it ,was missing.
I wrote to Bryan Hartnell and asked him if Cecilia had a watch on that day ? He never replied, neither did Riverside PD. I did not see a watch listed on the evidence list, what student back then would not have a watch ?

Purely by accident I found a picture of a guy with a paper sack over his head with eye holes cut out. This is from the Berkeley Barb in an article telling about a prank that was played on a speaker at the university, September 29, 1967, two years before the LB attack. The paper sack guy was the accomplice in this caper. I will say that I found it rather clever that paper sack guy tucked the bottom of his hood into his shirt which would help keep the sack from moving around and coming off unexpectedly.

Interesting Seagull, almost two years to the day before Berryessa

Great find Seagull thanks. The one I found had to be tucked under the neck of the poncho because it was bent on the bottom of all 4 corners , as if it rested on the person's shoulders. The clip on glasses also helped somewhat to keep the hood in place. We know it moved a bit, in order for Bryan to see the hair. We have more than one suspect connected to UC Berkeley. Again great find !

Do I see horned rimed glasses under the hood ?