The 3 Girls - I Think Saw Who Attacked Bryan & Cecelia

[morf13]

The Guy watching the Girls may have been Z, planning on attacking all the girls, but unsure of how he could handle them all. Then again, he could have been a perv watching some girls sunbathing. That's where this guy has always been frustrating. It's also frustrating that he never came forward

[EndOfTheWorld]

Slightly off-topic, but why does it make the guy a "perv" if he is looking at women sunbathing? A perv would be a guy who approaches and offers them some money for their dirty underwear, maybe. But you're saying it's perverted to even LOOK at women?

[morf13]

Slightly off-topic, but why does it make the guy a "perv" if he is looking at women sunbathing? A perv would be a guy who approaches and offers them some money for their dirty underwear, maybe. But you're saying it's perverted to even LOOK at women?

Perv might not have been the right word

[UKSpycatcher]

"Perv might not have been the right word." No but voyeur might be.
If somebody is goggling your backside for half an hour plus, then it's time to be concerned, especially if something white is dangling from his waistline, and it's not rope or a piece of shirt.

[EndOfTheWorld]

Yeah, I think he probably was the Z, but the girls did not suspect that at the time. In fact they were ogling right back at him, and described him as well-built and good-looking, or words to that effect.

[morf13]

3/18/10

The girls: 28/30/40 years old. Dark hair/black hair. Neatly combed.
Bryan: 20/30. Dark hair. Combed.


The girls: dark pants, dark pull over shirt, about 200-220lbs/black sweater shirt, BUNCHED UP IN FRONT.



Bryan: stomach hanging over trousers, dark pants/shirt/jacket, around 225-250. (note..Bryan never actually saw his stomach.)





One of the girls thought she saw a "white belt around his back", but it possibly was a t-shirt hanging out. (I believe this was the clothesline)



Bryan:



http://www.zodiackiller.com/LBReport10.html

**Wouldn't you wear your t-shirt UNDER your shirt/sweather? Not too many people walking around in dark trousers and dark sweater/shirts while others are sun-bathing. One description had the shirt as black with red in it. Convenient if trying to cover-up blood.

We KNOW there was a guy creeping around the shoreline who pretty much fit Bryan's description.

I want to know who the creeper was watching the girls. I have never believed in two Zodiacs or a Zodiac team, but they heavily publicized that they were seeking this guy and he never came forward. That being said, I don't think there's any way he was Zodiac. They said he was 6ft to 6ft2, good shape dark hair no glasses. Cecelia & Bryan said their attackers was fat, bulky,overweight,etc, Cecelia told the emergency worker that he was wearing glasses,where as the creeper watching the girls wasn't. I guess they could be the same guy but the Berryessa sketch and the Pacific Heights sketch just do not look at all like the same person, not even close

[Tahoe27]

I don't see how anyone can read what I shared there and not see it's the same guy.

[Quagmire]

The description by the 3 girls (over 6ft tall, well built, 30ish, dark combed hair, good looking) always reminded me of Manalli. And then there's the scouting for girls with rope in his pocket which might match the Santa Rosa case...

[Marshall]

The description by the 3 girls (over 6ft tall, well built, 30ish, dark combed hair, good looking) always reminded me of Manalli. And then there's the scouting for girls with rope in his pocket which might match the Santa Rosa case...

If we consider the notion that LB was not the work of "Real Z," and we then needed to find a suspect who could write on the car door in Z-like fashion, Fred would be my first choice. His looks, size, similar MO to the SRHM, and handwriting all fit well. Even the location, being more in Manalli's territory than the Z shootings. And as Tahoe points out, LB Z was unaware that "Real Z" will claim August in a letter.

[Pettibon Junction]

The description by the 3 girls (over 6ft tall, well built, 30ish, dark combed hair, good looking) always reminded me of Manalli. And then there's the scouting for girls with rope in his pocket which might match the Santa Rosa case...

If we consider the notion that LB was not the work of "Real Z," and we then needed to find a suspect who could write on the car door in Z-like fashion, Fred would be my first choice. His looks, size, similar MO to the SRHM, and handwriting all fit well. Even the location, being more in Manalli's territory than the Z shootings. And as Tahoe points out, LB Z was unaware that "Real Z" will claim August in a letter.

No offense, but farfetched thoughts like these are why this case will never be solved.

I'm with Tahoe on this one.