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snooter wrote:i still believe DF knew Z...i also believe those calls were made by Z (knowing the unlisted # is just damn scary)...one thing i have yet to agree with is any connection between DF and gaik...i dont think gaik was Z but even i must admit the albany connection is very interesting but no solid proof DF knew of gaik in albany or vice versa..as of now its just theory...but it is interesting and narlow making the connection does raise an eyebrow...

Welsh Chappie wrote:

snooter wrote:i still believe DF knew Z...i also believe those calls were made by Z (knowing the unlisted # is just damn scary)...one thing i have yet to agree with is any connection between DF and gaik...i dont think gaik was Z but even i must admit the albany connection is very interesting but no solid proof DF knew of gaik in albany or vice versa..as of now its just theory...but it is interesting and narlow making the connection does raise an eyebrow...

""]i still believe DF knew Z...i also believe those calls were made by Z (knowing the unlisted # is just damn scary)..."

Whether the number was listed or unlisted is really irrelevant. If the number was listed and you could say "Well, he obviously must have looked it up" then that's still going to leave you with the question of "How did he know who to look up if Dee was some random victim he did not know?"

Nachtsider wrote:The Ferrin menfolk did not like Leo very much. The moment Leo called the Ferrin home and one of them picked up, he might have gotten cold feet, said nothing and hung up rather than ask for his sister.

Welsh Chappie wrote:

Nachtsider wrote:The Ferrin menfolk did not like Leo very much. The moment Leo called the Ferrin home and one of them picked up, he might have gotten cold feet, said nothing and hung up rather than ask for his sister.

Fair enough if Dean picked up, said hello, then the phone went dead but that isn't what he and his parents report. What possible reason would Leo have for staying on the line and breathing into the phone?

Tahoe27 wrote:The Suennen's phone number was unlisted, but it was the Ferrins who received the phone calls...I had never heard the Suennens received calls.

duckking2001 wrote:

Tahoe27 wrote:The Suennen's phone number was unlisted, but it was the Ferrins who received the phone calls...I had never heard the Suennens received calls.

Wasn't that one of the things we were trying to get to the bottom of in the other thread; exactly who it was that received the calls? And now I don't remember it either. Doh.

That's the most frustrating thing about this case, there is so much and unanswered questions that I often forget whether we found an answer or not.

Tahoe27 wrote:

duckking2001 wrote:

Tahoe27 wrote:The Suennen's phone number was unlisted, but it was the Ferrins who received the phone calls...I had never heard the Suennens received calls.

Wasn't that one of the things we were trying to get to the bottom of in the other thread; exactly who it was that received the calls? And now I don't remember it either. Doh.

That's the most frustrating thing about this case, there is so much and unanswered questions that I often forget whether we found an answer or not.

In the PD reports, it was Darlene's house and Dean's parents home. That's not to say the Suennens never got calls, it is just not mentioned in the reports we have seen.