Did Dee know her Killer?

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Did Dee know her Killer?

Postby onewhoknows » Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:26 pm

The Police Reports for Blue Rock Springs have Mike saying that their assailant pulled up beside them, before pulling away and returning to shoot them.
While parked next to them he asked Dee if she knew this man. Dee said,"Oh never mind." She didn't say, "No, I've never seen that freak before."
Mike was 19 years old and Dee was 22. Who might Dee be dating, and what age would these guys be? Let's see Mike is 19.
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Re: Did Dee know her Killer?

Postby morf13 » Sat Feb 01, 2014 12:46 pm

Gee,how old was your Suspect in 1969?
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Re: Did Dee know her Killer?

Postby Tahoe27 » Sat Feb 01, 2014 2:10 pm

I believe her husband was like 25 and the Officer she was dating for a while was even older. Not sure why, IF she knew the person he couldn't been just about any age.
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Re: Did Dee know her Killer?

Postby onewhoknows » Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:52 am

How old was your suspect in 1969 Morf? We need to go back to Mike's physical description of the killer as well. He said 26 to 30 years of age. I am aware that there is conjecture that Dee did hang out with older men, and I ask these questions to shake out comments, in order to get to the truth. Who was this dude Dee thought she might know? Mike went on to tease her for awhile about all the guys she had hanging around her. Could it be that the Zodiac stalked Dee for awhile, maybe even talked with her at Terry's where she worked, easily accessible off of Highway 80. Maybe he even asked her out for a date. Maybe they even got together.
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Re: Did Dee know her Killer?

Postby AK Wilks » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:25 pm

Interesting questions, but IMO Darlene might have well had stalkers, or men who were infatuated with her, but none of those people were the Zodiac. In other words, a young attractive married woman who was known to date outside of her marriage, got interest wanted and unwanted from men, younger and older. But probably none were Zodiac.

All the evidence I have seen tends to show that Zodiac did not know any of his victims. Though the idea is certainly worth exploring, as police and researchers have done. But so far, nothing solid.
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Re: Did Dee know her Killer?

Postby onewhoknows » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:44 pm

Yes, she could have recognized him as merely a patron of the restaurant where she worked. I would think the car Zodiac was in, must have been vaguely familiar to her,
as it was dark outside and probably hard to see the driver really well. Another brownish Corvair like car. We are all dealing under the assumption now, that this is the same man that killed the kids at Lake Herman Road. He has arrived again, prepared with loaded weapons and flashlights. Ready to kill. In the same geographical area.
I'm so sorry for Dee, I'm feeling like he punished her.
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Re: Did Dee know her Killer?

Postby zodiphile » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:35 pm

With this case there are many unknowns and very few certainties. Z may have known every single victim, he may have never seen any of them before the attacks. There is NO concrete evidence to support Z knowing any of the victims prior to attacking them. If Z was from the Vallejo area (which i think he was) then its possible he had seen the victims before but i doubt he actually knew any of them and there isn't any evidence to suggest otherwise. This angle should've been and i believe was investigated thoroughly (and still is every day). It's always amazed me that so many people try to link Z to knowing Darlene! It seems that her family, at least early on, pushed this theory. I don't suggest the 'Z knowing his victims' theory be completely abandoned. I just think too many people latch on to this idea and get tunnel vision.
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Re: Did Dee know her Killer?

Postby BuckwheatFlowers » Mon Feb 03, 2014 1:45 pm

zodiphile wrote:With this case there are many unknowns and very few certainties. Z may have known every single victim, he may have never seen any of them before the attacks. There is NO concrete evidence to support Z knowing any of the victims prior to attacking them. If Z was from the Vallejo area (which i think he was) then its possible he had seen the victims before but i doubt he actually knew any of them and there isn't any evidence to suggest otherwise. This angle should've been and i believe was investigated thoroughly (and still is every day). It's always amazed me that so many people try to link Z to knowing Darlene! It seems that her family, at least early on, pushed this theory. I don't suggest the 'Z knowing his victims' theory be completely abandoned. I just think to many people latch on to this idea and get tunnel vision.


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Re: Did Dee know her Killer?

Postby onewhoknows » Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:31 pm

Let us reference the conversation Dee and Mike had in the Police Reports about the man that parked next to them that evening.
Yes, it is probably too late to do an in depth investigation into the guys hanging around Dee in 1969.
But would it not give us more insight into the actual killer? And might she have recognized the car Zodiac was in that night?
That could mean it was Zodiac's car and he drove it before. And now we have a definitive vehicle.
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Re: Did Dee know her Killer?

Postby onewhoknows » Thu Feb 27, 2014 12:15 pm

I recently read a newspaper article where in Mike Mageau is interviewed while still in the hospital recovering from the Zodiac attack.
He states the killer originally pulled in beside he and Dee. That the killer backed his car in, with his window then being directly next to
Dee's window. When Mike asked Dee if she knew him, in the newspaper article he quotes Dee's response as "Don't worry about it."
It is dark and late at night and no other cars are in the parking lot and the killer backs in and parks next to the kids...
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