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Just to elaborate on this post http://www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-new ... -the-south

There were also differing reports from the passer-bys on Lake Herman Road that night as to how the Rambler was parked. Here's what's puzzled me:

!. Helen ?--the 18 years old who drove by the turnout with her boyfriend that night and recognized the Rambler and Faraday and Jensen' said that at 10:15 pm the Rambler was facing the gate. When she drove back by about 15 minutes later she noticed the Rambler had moved and was now facing more towards the east.

2. One of the hunters stated the Rambler was parked Southwest of where it was found by the police when he passed sometime between 11-11:15pm.

3. The ground temperature was reported as 22 degrees yet Peggy Your made a point of saying she saw no frost on the Rambler when they passed (twice.)

4. On an addendum report Detective Lundbaum stated the Rambler was found with 3 doors locked, front right door open and the engine was luke warm. I'm assuming that was the hood altho the report didn't specify. Also, since he arrived closer to midnight, i wondered if the observation was made then or he got it from another RO.

5. When you look at the photos--and I'm sure you've noticed this already--the front wheels of the Rambler are turned slightly but noticeably to the left. Not like David was making a hard turn left but definitely turned that way.

I wondered whether the keys were found in the ignition? They weren't in the inventory of David's pockets or Betty Lou's belongings.

Since it was cold out--22 degrees--and the Rambler had been observed parked in the turnout for at least an hour--and Betty Lou did not have her coat on--I wonder if David periodically ran the engine to heat the car? I don't know about cars back then but I imagine he'd have to run the engine to get adequate heat--maybe even move the car?

The more I've thought about the timeline on LHR, the car movements, no one except Owens reporting a second car, I've wondered whether zodiac was on foot. Or had his car parked somewhere else. With all these cars passing by where could he have hid?

UK.....

What does that circle denote? It is right below the 2nd "A" in Faraday. It shows Betty Lou well behind the Rambler, David right off the passenger side of the Rambler, so what is that circle denoting in the police sketch? It looks like it may say 50' inside the circle, and then there's something drawn right below the circle. If there was nothing out there then why show how far 50' from the road is?


BayArea60's

It is a bullet casing marked 20 feet from the right side of the Rambler. Here are all the bullet casings marked in their approximate positions, along with Betty Lou superimposed on another photograph.

The picture and the sketch, don't match. Now I've seen pictures that seemed to be more in line with the sketch, than this picture shows. the pics I recall have Betty Lou more behind the rambler and a fair distance from David. this pic shows them relatively close to each other. The pic also clearly shows Betty Lou's body had been moved before the picture was taken. The blood is a good 12" from where her head would be, there's no blood between Betty Lou's head in the picture, and the blood spot. It makes sense when the cops show up if she is face down, they would turn her over to see if there's any sign of life. This picture almost makes it look like Betty Lou was running more in the direction of the fence, than towards L. Herman road.

BayArea60's

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The casing that was farthest away appears to be 20' from David's head...not the Rambler.

Objects seem much closer than they appear sometimes, but there is obviously miscalculations in that report.

This drawing would also depict Betty Lou at more of the 28' mark from the Rambler. Odd indeed. Of course the mistake with BLJ could simply be that the artist was basing this off of what was told to him at the time. Where did 28' come from anyway?

Tahoe....

thanks for the input....In my mind I always see the sketch more than the photo....The picture clearly shows Betty Lou is more to the right of the taillight and far closer to David than I thought she was, and much farther away from the road than what I've always thought. the picture doesn't lie. So I wonder if the casing at 20' could actually be the first shot Z fired into the side of the Rambler, to get their initial attention?

BayArea60's

Sometimes photos are misleading though.

Tahoe....

LOL...We can use buckets that size in Ca.....

BayArea60s

For sure...it's never ending!