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Coffee Time wrote:In this interview, Butterbach says the class ring was missing from Faraday's finger and that Z must have taken it as a souvenir. I really have no faith in what elderly cops say based on decades-old memories.

http://www.officialcoldcaseinvestigatio ... #post22815

I agree for the most part, Coffee Time, but I think what was written there might have been taken out of context. ??

While Butterbach stated the ring was removed, he didn't say it was gone--possibly an attempt at a souvenir? If you note here (I recorded that segment), he stated David was (oddly) holding it and from what he states it doesn't appear it was on his finger.

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In regards to Bidou easily seeing any cars parked in the turnout, I would have to agree with him about that. It's a small turnout and he would have been coming from Lake Herman so this recorded view of his statement from the Fincher documentary does clearly show what would have been seen:

Thank you for posting that portion the video--as if the Lake herman timeline is not complicated enough! I can't see how Bideu missed the station wagon (sorry Sandy--just my opinion.) With so many other reports of it being parked there--the Yours, the hunters, Owens--he must be mistaken somehow. As I re-read some of the reports I saw another curiosity--one of the hunters was insistent that the station wagon was parked facing into the gate @ 1105. Also, found the report from the classmate "Helen" who said she the Rambler and knew it was David's at 1015pm parked facing the gate, then at 1030ish facing the field. So many witnesses around the crime scene, but no one witnessed the crime itself.

Yes, the article makes it sound as though the ring was missing entirely...although, it seems a little odd that Butterbach would conclude that it ended up where it did because the killer wanted a souvenir. Perhaps he asked for the ring as a pretense and David was prepared to comply, ala LB, but that's not quite the same thing.

EDIT: Oh -- thought I'd seen Bidou's "interesting version of events" before... http://www.zodiackillersite.com/viewtop ... f=84&t=616

lt was me who said a while back about pierre bidous odd statements, which he also he carrys on with at the 11minute mark on the aphrodite show, the statements from that night do not match up ,some very good comments up above nice reading:)

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"Frenchy" Bidou is an idiot. LL told a story about him going over a car in a murder case and turning it back over to the owner with a meat cleaver still wedged between the driver's side door and the front seat. There was also a watch hanging on the gear shift that he had missed. His story about there being nobody in the turnout seems sketchy unless David took the car out for a spin to get the engine warm for the heater.

Mike

mike_r wrote:Hi-

"Frenchy" Bidou is an idiot. LL told a story about him going over a car in a murder case and turning it back over to the owner with a meat cleaver still wedged between the driver's side door and the front seat. There was also a watch hanging on the gear shift that he had missed. His story about there being nobody in the turnout seems sketchy unless David took the car out for a spin to get the engine warm for the heater.

Mike

Mike, I was told the same thing about Bidou and the car from a crime scene. I think that victim was Sheri Dine Bana ? I didn't remember the part about a meat cleaver, I thought it was a long knife like what was used at Lake Berryessa?
Wasn't the victims car found at Blue Rock Springs parking lot, parked across three parking stalls ? I have always felt that the killer put her car in the same spot as Darlene's car was found. A way of saying he was the same killer as the one who shot Darlene and Mike. Her body was found off of Lake Herman rd only a few yards away from the Dec 20th 68 crime scene.

A Zodiac like taunting game of connect the dots and you will figure out who killed her ?

Tahoe27 wrote:
In regards to Bidou easily seeing any cars parked in the turnout, I would have to agree with him about that. It's a small turnout and he would have been coming from Lake Herman so this recorded view of his statement from the Fincher documentary does clearly show what would have been seen:

Interesting that he mentions a 'buzzle of shooting' being reported by the Benicia Police Department. If Burgess had seen the body of Jensen and Owen not being sure if he had heard a shot - who reported the shooting then? Nobody knew it had been a shooting at that point of time...

QT

Perhaps Zodiac placed the call ?

sandy betts wrote:Perhaps Zodiac placed the call ?

If so, we don't know about it yet, do we? Benicia PD is like opposite the direction of vallejo PD, too.

QT