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Tahoe27 wrote:

UKSpycatcher wrote:...We know the Borges Ranch is 2.7 miles from the turnout and it took Stella Borges 4-5 minutes to reach the Lake Herman Road turnout, therefore James Owen, on his way to Humble Oil in Benicia, must have passed the Borges Ranch at approximately 11.10 pm.

Actually, The Borgess Ranch was not 2.7 miles away. It was only 1.5 miles away.

This is one of the things that has bothered my about the police report since the officers measured the distance twice. For the life of me, I cannot figure out the location of which they marked the distance.

So, it would seem, Stella's timeline would be affected.


POST #63 HERE: http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/1 ... SwZx9zF-So

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Tahoe27 wrote:

masootz wrote:for anyone who has been to the scene, can you give an estimate of what kind of window of time you'd have to see cars coming from either direction (keep in mind we're talking seeing headlights since this happened at night)? what i'm getting at is did zodiac scope out this location because you'd see headlights a minute before a car comes around the curve, or was he relying on random luck? if it was a strategically sound location from the standpoint of having a chance to duck and cover if a car is coming, then it might explain some of the weirdness surrounding the timeline.

With headlights, you'd have pretty good notice someone was coming--in either direction, but imo, you'd want to be ready to high-tail it out of there easily in either direction...by backing in.

Really, what happened to David and Betty Lou could have happened in under a minute.

morf13 wrote:

Tahoe27 wrote:

UKSpycatcher wrote:...We know the Borges Ranch is 2.7 miles from the turnout and it took Stella Borges 4-5 minutes to reach the Lake Herman Road turnout, therefore James Owen, on his way to Humble Oil in Benicia, must have passed the Borges Ranch at approximately 11.10 pm.

Actually, The Borgess Ranch was not 2.7 miles away. It was only 1.5 miles away.

This is one of the things that has bothered my about the police report since the officers measured the distance twice. For the life of me, I cannot figure out the location of which they marked the distance.

So, it would seem, Stella's timeline would be affected.


POST #63 HERE: http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/1 ... SwZx9zF-So

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Both Stella's houses were right on the street/LHR. If you click on the link I provided there is more detail. Younger Stella lived across the street from the house shown...now just a patch of old cement.



Lake Herman Road:



If true, Z would likely have even less of a window. Maybe the driveway to her house was that far away?

Tahoe27 wrote:

UKSpycatcher wrote:...We know the Borges Ranch is 2.7 miles from the turnout and it took Stella Borges 4-5 minutes to reach the Lake Herman Road turnout, therefore James Owen, on his way to Humble Oil in Benicia, must have passed the Borges Ranch at approximately 11.10 pm.

Actually, The Borgess Ranch was not 2.7 miles away. It was only 1.5 miles away.

This is one of the things that has bothered my about the police report since the officers measured the distance twice. For the life of me, I cannot figure out the location of which they marked the distance.

So, it would seem, Stella's timeline would be affected.


POST #63 HERE: http://zodiackiller.fr.yuku.com/topic/1 ... SwZx9zF-So

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murray wrote:Agree on the vagueness of the timeline -- still, kudos to UKS for attempting to break it down. But this also reminds me of some of the difficulty I have with James Owens as a witness. While it can't be easy to remember (or notice) some of the finer points in the dark, the differences in his two accounts of the space between the cars, and the later-remembered shots heard, are enough to make me wonder about his story.