Today's visit to Lake Herman Road

[Craigfitzer]

Below see two photos from today's MH Crime scene. My vehicle is parked where I believe the victim's car was parked. If I remember right, the witness, Owens, said he saw another vehicle park 3-4 feet from the victims car and also said he saw the car ten feet away. The first photo shows my son standing exactly 4 feet from my car and the second photo shows my son standing 10 feet from where the victims car was and where the possible Zodiac car would have been.

I have several thoughts concerning my visit but first can someone confirm that have facts about "Owens" correct?

[Craigfitzer]

2nd photo

[BuckwheatFlowers]

Yes, he claimed on 12/21 that they were 10 ft apart. Then on 12/24 he claimed the cars were 3-4 ft apart.

[ace ventura]

Tanks for the pics , Craigfitzer ... still spooky BTW
Was that large tree there in Dec. of 68?
it looks like the card that had the tree with eye balls ,maybe he had spied on couples before hiding behind it.

[morf13]

Great pics, thanks for posting em

[Tahoe27]

Even 10' is too close for comfort. I'm sure you felt it when you were there...now imagine at night, pitch black.

[Zamantha]

Been there, too many times. Each time I'm there I park for a quick getaway.

[Zamantha]

Craigfitzer,
Here's some more photo's of LHR and some other locations. They are in the Hang Out Thread under viewtopic.php?f=100&t=196

[Craigfitzer]

This is the second time I've been to the MH site. The first time was years ago before I knew anything about the case. My wife was born and raised in Vallejo and her mother worked at the news paper when the letters were coming in so I've heard much about the case. But no real specifics. Going to this site this time I was a bit more armed with information. A few thoughts after my visit. And I'd love your feedback.

First, in my opinion I see no way the second car (possible zodiac) was only four feet away. For a few reasons but one being where the David was laying. There would not have been enough room for him to fall the way the chalk outline indicated if parked that close. And very little room to Manuever. Ten feet makes much more sense.

Secondly, if the Zodiac was really parked by the DF/BLJ car, it would have been a task to pull his car out of there without running over BLJ and to me it doesn't make sense that he would have backed in. I was shocked on how small this area is. Where her body was and being at night and having to most likely back out I'm not sure how he did it! It certainly wasn't easy. Pictures really don't show how small that area is.

Thirdly, this is my opinion but there is no way that someone could pass that area, at night or not and not see people in that car or even around it. It is so close to the road that it would be extremely difficult to NOT see someone, whether in or out if the vehicle.

So here's a feeling I got when I was there, just a hunch. I'm not sure that the zodiac pulled in there at all. I think he may have been on foot. I checked out where the Racoon hunters where and it's about a 1 minute walk. Not saying it's them but maybe he parked close and walked over. Just a thought. Of course if what I am saying is true then that opens up another can if worms.

[Craigfitzer]

Craigfitzer,
Here's some more photo's of LHR and some other locations. They are in the Hang Out Thread under viewtopic.php?f=100&t=196

Thank you for sharing.