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Postby morf13 » Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:38 pm

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Re: Lake Herman Rd Crime Scene Photos

Postby Tahoe27 » Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:08 am

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Re: Lake Herman Rd Crime Scene Photos

Postby Welsh Chappie » Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:19 am

Tahoe, am I correct in remembering that the Rambler, when found, was parked facing toward the pumping station itself? Up until Approx.11:15pm, witnesses state the Rambler was parked facing toward Lake Herman Road, then somewhere between 11:15 and the time they were discovered around 11:30, the Rambler had been repositioned to face the P. Station? Is that accurate? (Sorry, I should know this I know, but I simply forgot.
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Re: Lake Herman Rd Crime Scene Photos

Postby Tahoe27 » Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:23 am

It was parked towards the field, not directly at the gate.
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Re: Lake Herman Rd Crime Scene Photos

Postby Welsh Chappie » Tue Feb 18, 2014 3:59 am

Tahoe27 wrote:It was parked towards the field, not directly at the gate.


Well yeah ok, toward the field. My point being, it had turned to face away from the road by the time it was discovered. Anyway, the reason I double checked is because of the location of the shot fired into the vehicle. If Zodiac pulls up to the right of the Rambler, then it means he exits his vehicle, walks toward or directly up to the Rambler, and fires a shot into the rear view door area just above the door itself. Obvious question: Why? Nobody was in the back. And if it was a 'warning shot' to entice them out of the vehicle, again you have to ask, why? For what purpose? At Blue Rock his intent is simply to kill, and shoot directly at the two victims.

What if the purpose of the shot he fires into the Rambler was not to force them out, but to try and contain the situation and keep them both in the vehicle? What if Betty motions to open the door and he fires to scare her into not exiting? And if Zodiac is shooting at the from a position to the right of the Rambler as it's parked, then that would be consistent with the shot entering above the rear passenger door. But if he is that side of the vehicle letting led fly into the passenger side, then why on Earth would both David and Betty exit via that side of the vehicle? If he forced them both out, what was his intent? Was he planning to abduct Betty or something? Shot Faraday dead, then planned and attempted to get in the Rambler and drive away with Betty as his prize, but Betty fled before he could pull away which forced him to exit the vehicle himself and open fire as she fled?

I know abduction was never Z's M.O, but I'm just trying to figure out, if he ordered one or both out, why? Then again M.O for Zodiac seemed to change as often as his appearance seemed to :-)

Come on Tahoe, voice of reason.... what's the answer?
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Re: Lake Herman Rd Crime Scene Photos

Postby mhoward48 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 8:59 am

It may just be me, but it bothers me that they drew David Faraday's body outline before he was dead, or put in the ambulance.
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Re: Lake Herman Rd Crime Scene Photos

Postby Tahoe27 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 11:28 am

mhoward48 wrote:It may just be me, but it bothers me that they drew David Faraday's body outline before he was dead, or put in the ambulance.


Maybe with David, they were pretty sure he would pass? Officer Hoffman with the V.P.D. did this with Mike Mageau as well, while he was very much alive. It has always bothered me.

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Re: Lake Herman Rd Crime Scene Photos

Postby rscflywheel » Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:30 am

I colored your shell casing.. I colored a few of your images. I am slow putting this stuff together but I have a lot more.. Just thought you guys would want to check a few out. I am not sure how to uplaod images to this but I will try. I am new to forums so take it easy on me .


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I am not sure if this will work or not. i have never done it before . If you want to check out more here is a link. Richard and I have been doing some with Paul Stine and the other crime scenes also.
http://340cipherhalloweencardconnection.blogspot.com/2015/07/the-murder-of-betty-lou-jensen-and.html
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Re: Lake Herman Rd Crime Scene Photos

Postby rscflywheel » Tue Aug 04, 2015 3:31 am

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Re: Lake Herman Rd Crime Scene Photos

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