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Not to trivialize the tragic ending to that night out there by the the lake,
but the LHR scenario sure had a cast of characters.

TheSingingDetective wrote:Not to trivialize the tragic ending to that night out there by the the lake,
but the LHR scenario sure had a cast of characters.

For being a quiet, seldom traveled road, there sure was a lot of people out there that night, wasn't there?

Its very odd the LE get stellas house distance wrong"convinietly she was there earlier than 1120 to have pitta at CS by 1128.

The fast clocks of hunters and yours and peggy give Z his slim timeline also otherwise that means again maybe more was seen imo

There simply isn't an established timeline based on incontrovertible facts.

That works both ways, one could say. Or - to put it differently - it works any way you want it to work.

What Z did seems incredibly risky. That's conspicuous, one could say. But the fact is that what he did at BRS was risky too. What he did at PH was incredibly risky, far riskier than having Paul Stine take him to some abandoned area or other. The risk factor is present for all known crimes - it was part of the game for him, it would seem.

His targets are easy ones, but the crimes are inherently risky nevertheless, in terms of where he strikes and what measures he takes to avoid possible witnesses.

Norse wrote:There simply isn't an established timeline based on incontrovertible facts.

That works both ways, one could say. Or - to put it differently - it works any way you want it to work.

What Z did seems incredibly risky. That's conspicuous, one could say. But the fact is that what he did at BRS was risky too. What he did at PH was incredibly risky, far riskier than having Paul Stine take him to some abandoned area or other. The risk factor is present for all known crimes - it was part of the game for him, it would seem.

His targets are easy ones, but the crimes are inherently risky nevertheless, in terms of where he strikes and what measures he takes to avoid possible witnesses.

The 'official' timeline is a 6 minute window. However, we know that Zodiac's car was there when Owen went by(if you believe his account),and that seconds after he went by, he heard shots. That's awfully risky for Z, and it may show he was so hell bent on killing that he didn't care about Owen going by, or he simply was not in his right mind,as it does not seem logical for you to carry out the double murder seconds after a witness went by and saw your car

I think you've done a great job of distilling all the various police reports/interviews into a cohesive timeline Morf. One of my fascinations with the Zodiac case is--how did he do it? The mechanics of his actions. In the case of Lake Herman Road, where was he in the 20 minutes before the shooting? I think he must have been aware of David and Betty Lou and the Yours and the hunters, and if he's not Owens, I think he must have seen his headlights approaching. I've not been to Lake Herman road, but from google maps it appears to be lined with trees, narrow, maybe even a bit twisty in places. Was he off the side of the road, watching? Did he drive with his headlights off when approaching and leaving the scene so no one saw his car? It was a moonless night--he could use that to his advantage. It seems everyone has their area of interest and mine is on how did he do this--such a quick hit, really. I also tend to think Z was a hunter, and my understanding is that some hunters stalk prey while others hunt an area. I think z was the later. So I believe he had an awareness of many of the people out there--but where was he?

I like to think he was at the entrance to humble oil just prior to the crimes and that his car was the car seen by the Yours.

Soze

Hi Soze --wasn't that the black car at the gate--and whoever was in it was talking to the guard? Did the police ever speak to the guard?

It was the black car and yes they were talking to the guard but, unfortunately, I don't know the answer to your latter question.

Soze