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onewhoknows wrote:Hey Buckwheat, while you are putting together the LHR timeline, can you put together a timeline on the sightings and descriptions
of the so called Impala that night.

That's a good point. Worth looking at.

There is a kid in the report that was driving with his older college aged friend, that was enrolled in SOlano County college, that passed a light blue or white chevy Impala possibly as they turned onto LHR. I am wondering about the blue cars,just as much as I am interested in the white cars. Wonderinf if under the right lighting, a light blue car could appear to be white? Remember the girls at the lake, the mystery guy they saw and that the sketch was based on, was driving a light blue car, and the car that supposedly chased Bill Crow was a light colored car,maybe a chevy

morf13 wrote:

onewhoknows wrote:Hey Buckwheat, while you are putting together the LHR timeline, can you put together a timeline on the sightings and descriptions
of the so called Impala that night.

That's a good point. Worth looking at.

There is a kid in the report that was driving with his older college aged friend, that was enrolled in SOlano County college, that passed a light blue or white chevy Impala possibly as they turned onto LHR. I am wondering about the blue cars,just as much as I am interested in the white cars. Wonderinf if under the right lighting, a light blue car could appear to be white? Remember the girls at the lake, the mystery guy they saw and that the sketch was based on, was driving a light blue car, and the car that supposedly chased Bill Crow was a light colored car,maybe a chevy

I've read the reports so forgive me for asking and not knowing but what car were they driving?

onewhoknows wrote:Hey Buckwheat, while you are putting together the LHR timeline, can you put together a timeline on the sightings and descriptions
of the so called Impala that night.

Yes, ma'am. The only two mentions of the white impala in the police reports are from the raccoon hunters (9:00 pm) and Bingo the sheep herder (10:00 pm). One or both are wrong on the time that they gave. More on that later.

traveller1st wrote:

morf13 wrote:

onewhoknows wrote:Hey Buckwheat, while you are putting together the LHR timeline, can you put together a timeline on the sightings and descriptions
of the so called Impala that night.

That's a good point. Worth looking at.

There is a kid in the report that was driving with his older college aged friend, that was enrolled in SOlano County college, that passed a light blue or white chevy Impala possibly as they turned onto LHR. I am wondering about the blue cars,just as much as I am interested in the white cars. Wonderinf if under the right lighting, a light blue car could appear to be white? Remember the girls at the lake, the mystery guy they saw and that the sketch was based on, was driving a light blue car, and the car that supposedly chased Bill Crow was a light colored car,maybe a chevy

I've read the reports so forgive me for asking and not knowing but what car were they driving?

Police report doesn't state what kind of car the witness was travelling in. Witness stated that he saw a blue, hard top, Olds 88(don) and a blue '63 impala with two people in it. My question on this is, what does (don) mean? Is that a police officer named Don that was driving the Olds 88? Timeline would seem to indicate that one of those two vehicles was the vehicle that Helen Axe was in (speculation only).


Here is a list of vehicles on LHR that night...

'61 Rambler Station Wagon (Faraday/Jensen)
'59 red Chevy truck with side boards. (Raccoon Hunters)
'67 gold Pontiac Grand Prix. (Yours)
Truck (Bingo)
'59 or '60 White 4-door Impala (?)
Blue Valiant ('68 police report) or White Chevy('04 version) witnessed by Crow. (?)
Dark car at entrance to Humble Oil witnessed by Peggy Your. (?) - technically not witnessed on LHR
Axe's vehicle
James Owens' vehicle
Car Owens passed on LHR (no id listed on car) (?)
Crow's vehicle
Medeiros vehicle
Blue Olds 88 (don) (?)
'63 Blue Impala with 2 people in it (?)
Dark car, lacking in chrome. Not large not compact. Witnessed at crime scene by James Owen.

(Edited for accuracy)

I dropped the ball by not asking Owen what type of car he was driving that night, and what color,etc it was

This is what I have so far

9:00PM Two Hunters see White 4 Dr '59 - '60 Impala parked in the turn out on Lake Herman Road

10:00PM Mr Bingo Wesher/Wisemer (?) Sheep Herder observes White Chev Impala and Red Pick up Truck

11:00PM Peggy Your and Husband observe kids alive in Rambler No other car observe Red Pick up
Threatened by a young man with a long barreled gun one of the Hunters(?)

11:10 PM Hunters see the Your's car leave area at 11:15pm No other car besides Rambler

11:15 PM James Owen drives past sees two cars in the turn out no dead bodies in turn out cannot describe the other car describes Rambler

11:15 PM Stella Borges comes upon the murder scene with dead bodies one car

11:30PM Police Notified Solano Sheriffs

I have accounted for the adjustments the Police made to folk's clocks.
There is a problem here with over lapping accounts
The bottom line is the Yours see the kids alive at 11:00 PM
And Stella Borges sees them dead at 11:15
At 11:00PM no other car is reported and the kids are Alive
Either someone here is lying and Zodiac was one of these present witnesses, or someone drove in between 11:00pm and 11:15 pm
And killed the kids and then left
There are no descriptions of any other cars during the time of the killings.

onewhoknows wrote:Either someone here is lying and Zodiac was one of these present witnesses

That's my line of thinking

morf13 wrote:

onewhoknows wrote:Hey Buckwheat, while you are putting together the LHR timeline, can you put together a timeline on the sightings and descriptions
of the so called Impala that night.

That's a good point. Worth looking at.

There is a kid in the report that was driving with his older college aged friend, that was enrolled in SOlano County college, that passed a light blue or white chevy Impala possibly as they turned onto LHR. I am wondering about the blue cars,just as much as I am interested in the white cars. Wonderinf if under the right lighting, a light blue car could appear to be white? Remember the girls at the lake, the mystery guy they saw and that the sketch was based on, was driving a light blue car, and the car that supposedly chased Bill Crow was a light colored car,maybe a chevy

Found the page about the kid driving with the older kid from Solano college. A couple troubling things jump out-frist, they dfinitely mention seeing an Impala that was blue, but was it light blue or dark blue? Next, why is this older student's name not mentioned in the report, and what kind of car is he driving? Why didn't police ask these questions? Why do we have to do it 40+ years later? I am going to see if I can reach out to Stan(by the way, as per usual, they spelled Stan's last name wrong in the report)

Stan went on to have a run-ins with police in recent years,and I wonder what kind of Solano College kid he was hanging out with, was he a trouble maker then?:

ASSAULT IV FELONY | Prison Start: 09/14/2010 | Max Term: 36Months

RESIST ARREST | MISDEMEANOR CLASS A

FAIL PERFORM DUTIES DRIVER/PD | MISDEMEANOR CLASS A

RECKLESS DRIVING | MISDEMEANOR CLASS A

CRIMINAL MISCHIEF-2 | MISDEMEANOR CLASS A

Anyone come up with what (Don) on the page Morf just posted refers to?

BuckwheatFlowers wrote:Anyone come up with what (Don) on the page Morf just posted refers to?

Don Cheney, Don Hardin, Don Fouke, wouldn't any of them be of interest?